……这个帖子里有人说我们可以通过降低限速等手段来解决这一切。拜托，这种说法都存在一百年了。如果你想了解这段历史，可以找一本 Peter Norton 写的《Fighting Traffic》来看看。他详细梳理了 1920 年代各大城市为限制汽车所做的种种努力，以及汽车行业游说集团是如何联手对抗这些限制，并一步步反客为主，演变成今天这种……
…posts on this thread suggesting we could fix all this by lowering speed limits, etc. That's been known for a hundred years at this point. If you want to get up on the history you can grab a copy of "Fighting Traffic," by Peter Norton. He goes through all the efforts cities made in the 1920's to limit cars, and how the motor lobby formed in opposition to this and little by little reversed the tables to the situation…
……汽车刚开上路面时的情景 [0]。在我们能够针对无人机的存在调整城市规划和设计之前，你不能指望人们对它们没意见。[0] 想了解更多，我推荐 Peter Norton 写的《Fighting Traffic: The Dawn of the Motor Age in the American City》。
…cars when they were first on roads [0]. You can't expect people not to have a problem with drones until we are able to adapt our planning and design to their existence. [0] For more on this, I recommend Fighting Traffic: The Dawn of the Motor Age in the American City by Peter Norton.
……政府与工业界通力合作的大规模行动硬生生把它们强推普及开来，并通过一场漫长的宣传攻势将其推销出去，最终被大众所接受。有一本关于这段早期历史的书叫《Fighting Traffic》，作者是 Peter Norton。美国当年差点在好几个城市全面禁车，在其他很多城市也差点强制要求安装限速 20 英里/小时的机械限速器。好些地方甚至还竖立了纪念碑和纪念物……
…significant concerted effort of government and industry together ramrodded them in and sold it through a long propaganda campaign that eventually was accepted. There’s a book about this early history called Fighting Traffic, by Peter Norton. The US came fairly close to banning cars in a number of cities, and to requiring mechanical governors to a 20mph limit in many others. A bunch of places installed memorials and monuments…
> 机动车交通，尤其是小汽车，享有高于非机动车交通的优先权 […] 关于这在美国是如何演变的历程，请参见 Peter Norton 的《Fighting traffic: the dawn of the motor age in the American city》。> 在汽车出现之前，城市街道的使用者形形色色，包括在路边玩耍的儿童和四处通行的行人。到了 1930 年，……
> Motorised traffic, and cars in particular, are prioritised over non-motorised traffic […] For a history of how this happened in the US see Fighting traffic: the dawn of the motor age in the American city by Peter Norton. > Before the advent of the automobile, users of city streets were diverse and included children at play and pedestrians at large. By 1930,…
另见 Peter Norton：* PDF: https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2934608/N... * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2924825-fighting-traffic * https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/
See also Peter Norton: * PDF: https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2934608/N... * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2924825-fighting-traffic * https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/
……这个帖子里有人说我们可以通过降低限速等手段来解决这一切。拜托，这种说法都存在一百年了。如果你想了解这段历史，可以找一本 Peter Norton 写的《Fighting Traffic》来看看。他详细梳理了 1920 年代各大城市为限制汽车所做的种种努力，以及汽车行业游说集团是如何联手对抗这些限制，并一步步反客为主，演变成今天这种……
…posts on this thread suggesting we could fix all this by lowering speed limits, etc. That's been known for a hundred years at this point. If you want to get up on the history you can grab a copy of "Fighting Traffic," by Peter Norton. He goes through all the efforts cities made in the 1920's to limit cars, and how the motor lobby formed in opposition to this and little by little reversed the tables to the situation…
……汽车刚开上路面时的情景 [0]。在我们能够针对无人机的存在调整城市规划和设计之前，你不能指望人们对它们没意见。[0] 想了解更多，我推荐 Peter Norton 写的《Fighting Traffic: The Dawn of the Motor Age in the American City》。
…cars when they were first on roads [0]. You can't expect people not to have a problem with drones until we are able to adapt our planning and design to their existence. [0] For more on this, I recommend Fighting Traffic: The Dawn of the Motor Age in the American City by Peter Norton.
……政府与工业界通力合作的大规模行动硬生生把它们强推普及开来，并通过一场漫长的宣传攻势将其推销出去，最终被大众所接受。有一本关于这段早期历史的书叫《Fighting Traffic》，作者是 Peter Norton。美国当年差点在好几个城市全面禁车，在其他很多城市也差点强制要求安装限速 20 英里/小时的机械限速器。好些地方甚至还竖立了纪念碑和纪念物……
…significant concerted effort of government and industry together ramrodded them in and sold it through a long propaganda campaign that eventually was accepted. There’s a book about this early history called Fighting Traffic, by Peter Norton. The US came fairly close to banning cars in a number of cities, and to requiring mechanical governors to a 20mph limit in many others. A bunch of places installed memorials and monuments…
> 机动车交通，尤其是小汽车，享有高于非机动车交通的优先权 […] 关于这在美国是如何演变的历程，请参见 Peter Norton 的《Fighting traffic: the dawn of the motor age in the American city》。> 在汽车出现之前，城市街道的使用者形形色色，包括在路边玩耍的儿童和四处通行的行人。到了 1930 年，……
> Motorised traffic, and cars in particular, are prioritised over non-motorised traffic […] For a history of how this happened in the US see Fighting traffic: the dawn of the motor age in the American city by Peter Norton. > Before the advent of the automobile, users of city streets were diverse and included children at play and pedestrians at large. By 1930,…
想了解这方面不错的历史背景，可以看看 Peter Norton 的《Fighting Traffic》：* https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2924825-fighting-traffic
For a good history of this see Fighting Traffic by Peter Norton: * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2924825-fighting-traffic
另见 Peter Norton：* PDF: https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2934608/N... * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2924825-fighting-traffic * https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/
See also Peter Norton: * PDF: https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2934608/N... * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2924825-fighting-traffic * https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/