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脑髓地狱

Dogra magra

Kyūsaku Yumeno · 初版 2003 年

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  • ……https://ho-lingnojikenbo.blogspot.com 就我个人而言,今年我读过的最好的非英语推理小说大概是横沟正史的《狱门岛》、陈浩基的《13·67》(The Borrowed),以及梦野久作的《脑髓地狱》(Dogra Magra)。

    …https://ho-lingnojikenbo.blogspot.com As for me personally, the best non-English mystery novels I’ve read this year are probably Death on Gokumon Island by Seishi Yokomizo, The Borrowed by Chan Ho-Kei, and Dogra Magra by Yumeno Kyusaku.

  • ……会提到某些完全没有英译本的小说,良心的译者注会说明这一点,然后说:好吧,想看的话就只能各凭本事了,哈哈。我此刻想到的就是《脑髓地狱》(Dogra Magra),某个 Blogspot 上有个民间翻译版,要是没记错的话只翻了前几页,另外亚马逊上在卖一个机翻盗版。据我所知没有别的翻译版本了,虽然我……

    …will reference some novel that remains completed untranslated, and good translation notes will note that then say, well, you're on your own on actually reading this lol. At the moment I am thinking of Dogra Magra, which has a fan translation on a blogspot somewhere that only covered the first few pages IIRC, and a Machine translation bootleg being sold on amazon. No other translation I am aware of, though I have…

  • 《脑髓地狱》(Dogra Magra)读起来真挺折磨人的,据说就连母语者都很难啃下来。据我所知(我自己没敢尝试去读),它既信息量极大,剧情推进又极其迟缓,……

    Dogra Magra is a tough one, it is known to be hard to get through even for native speakers. From what I've heard (I have not attempted to read it), it's both dense in information, but very sparse in progression,…

  • 是的,我觉得挺有道理。我认为翻译小说(尤其是现代主义小说,我觉得《脑髓地狱》就算这种)不仅比翻译动漫或其他流行文化更难,而且更……呃,概念上更诡异?我刚才就在想弗吉尼亚·伍尔夫的《到灯塔去》,讲真,翻译这种作品到底意味着什么……

    Yes, makes sense to me. I think translation of novels (maybe particularly modernist novels, which I think Dogra Magra is considered) is not just harder than anime or other pop culture, but more, uh, conceptually strange? I was just thinking of Virginia Woolf's "To The Lighthouse", like, what would it mean to translate…

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