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失去立足之地

Losing ground

Charles A. Murray · 初版 1984 年

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  • 哈哈,我就喜欢看这种动不动就立稻草人的过敏反应。顺便说一句,你应该读读《Losing Ground》,看看福利制度的负面影响。这可是一个最初想总结福利制度正面效果的人写的,结果他自己被搜集到的数据给震惊到了。http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Ground-American-Social-1950-198...…

    Haha, I always like the allergic reaction where one guy pulls a strawman. By the way, you ought to read Losing Ground on the negative effects of the Welfare system. ANd this came from a guy who wanted to sum up the positive effects of it in the first place, who ended up being shocked by the data he gathered. http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Ground-American-Social-1950-198...…

  • ……能让穷人受益的事情。事实已经多次证明,从长远来看,福利政策实际上伤害了穷人,而不是让他们受益。关于这个话题有整本整本的专著。去看看查尔斯·默里(Charles Murray)写的《Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980》。

    …something that benefits the poor. Welfare policies have been shown at multiple times to actually harm the poor in the long run, not benefit them. There are entire books written on that topic. Check out Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980 from Charles Murray.

  • 尽管令人作呕,但我的观点并不仅仅基于《钟形曲线》(The Bell Curve)里关于种族与智商的讨论。* 在《Losing Ground》中,默里谈到福利应该受到限制,因为黑人生了太多孩子。他的书对 90 年代中期实行的“福利改革”产生了巨大的影响,在……

    Abominable as it is, my views are not just based on the Bell Curve's race-IQ discussion. * In Losing Ground, Murray talks about about how welfare should be restricted because Black people are having too many kids. His book had a great deal of influence on the "welfare reform" instituted in the mid-1990s in…

  • 查尔斯·默里,以下著作的作者:*《文明的解析》(Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950) *《Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950–1980》 *《真实的教育》(Real Education: Four Simple Truths for Bringing American Schools Back to Reality) *《分崩离析》(Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960–2010)。哦,还有《The Bell Jar》,虽然……

    Charles Murray, author of * Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950 * Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950–1980 * Real Education: Four Simple Truths for Bringing American Schools Back to Reality * Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960–2010 Oh, and The Bell Jar, although…

  • ……(两派提出的)大多数政策都不是基于实证的,而且从长远来看往往适得其反(查尔斯·默里在其《Losing Ground》一书中就通过几个案例解释了这一点)。不过我不确定新加坡的例子拥有“科学背景”到底有多大相关性。如果你不在实际的科学领域工作,也从没用过它,你的背景就……

    …Most of the policies (on either side) are not evidence-based and actually have counter-productive effects in the long run (Charles Murray explained this through several cases, for example, in his book "Losing Ground"). However I am not sure about how relevant it is for the Singaporean examples to have had "scientific background". If you do not work in the actual science field and never used it, your background is…

  • ……1973 年。当时大约 63% 的黑人和贫困人口生活在单身母亲家庭中。到了 1978 年,在监禁率仍处于历史正常范围的情况下,这一比例接近 70%(来源:查尔斯·默里的《Losing Ground》)。家庭结构的瓦解发生在前,并非监禁导致的。以为如果这些男人没被关起来,他们就会成为正直忠诚的……完全是一厢情愿。

    …1973. At that time, about 63% of black and poor persons lived in a single-female headed household. By 1978, with incarceration rates still within their historical range, the rate was nearly 70% (source Losing Ground by Charles Murray). Family structure breakdown came first, it was not caused by incarceration. It is wishful thinking to believe that if all these men were not locked up they would be upstanding and faithful…

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