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Gadsby

Ernest Vincent Wright、Ernest Wright · 初版 1939 年

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一部通篇超过5万字、未曾使用过一个英文字母“E”的完整小说。

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  • 另外两个不同寻常且巧妙的语言构造是:xkcd 的《Up Goer Five》,仅用基础英语中最常用的 1000 个词来描述土星 5 号火箭,参见 [1];以及欧内斯特·文森特·赖特的《葛兹比》(Gadsby),一部通篇没有使用字母“e”的 5 万字小说,参见 [2]。[1] https://xkcd.com/1133/ [2] https://www.abebooks.com/books/gadsby-lipogram/

    Two other unusual and clever language constructions are xkcd's Up Goer Five a description of a Saturn 5 rocket using only words contained in the 1000 words of basic English, see [1], and Gadsby by Ernest Vincent Wright, a novel of 50,000 words without using the letter e, see [2]. [1] https://xkcd.com/1133/ [2] https://www.abebooks.com/books/gadsby-lipogram/

  • 我想看一个生成回答时不包含字母“e”的 LLM,就像欧内斯特·文森特·赖特的小说《葛兹比》(Gadsby)那样。

    I want to see an LLM that generates answers without the letter 'e', like the novel Gadsby by Ernest Vincent Wright.

  • 我先听说的是《Gadsby》,所以当高中朋友告诉我他们在读《The Great Gatsby》时,我特别困惑,为什么他们的英语课会布置一本以不使用字母 'e' 而闻名的书。

    I had heard about "Gadsby" first, so when high school friends told me they were reading "The Great Gatsby", I was quite confused about why their English class would assign a book most known for not using the letter 'e'.

  • 市场上容得下功能不全的产品,尤其是那种刻意功能不全的。约束对艺术来说往往是好事。小说《Gadsby》通篇不用字母 E,算不上英语文学的巅峰,但确实新颖,也正因如此才更好。限制,雄辩地表达,通过简单的形式传达你的信息……

    There's room for a product that is not fully featured, especially one that is intentionally not fully featured. Constraints are often a good thing for art. The novel "Gadsby", written without the letter E, is not the finest point of english literature, but is certainly novel and better for it. Limitations, speaking eloquently, and conveying your message through simple form…

  • ……非常强烈地从世界观内视角来描述特隆。(读过那篇故事的人会明白为什么!)后来维基百科上一场类似的编辑战,是关于《Gadsby》(那本不用字母 E 的避字小说)的条目是否也应该按照小说本身的约束来写,以及关于 E-Prime(一种不使用……来写英语的方法)的条目是否也……

    …very strongly to describe Tlön from an in-universe perspective. (People who've read the story will understand why!) A kind of analogous later Wikipedia edit war had to do with whether the article about Gadsby (the lipographic novel that doesn't use the letter E) should be written with the same constraint as the novel itself, and also whether the article on E-Prime (an approach to writing English without using…

  • ……比如 OO,在最有意义的时候用。我认为一门“纯”函数式语言就像是在没有“e”键的键盘上写小说。当然,你最终会磕磕绊绊地写出《Gadsby》,但有些时候,能“作弊”反而有助于让你的代码更清晰简洁。我用 C++ 或 C# 写代码时,大多数时候都保持对象不可变,因为那是最简单的……

    …such as OO, when they make the most sense to do so. I'd argue a "pure" functional language is akin to trying to write a novel on a keyboard without an "e" key. Sure, you'll eventually stumble and write "Gadsby", but there are times when being able to cheat is useful in making your code more clear and concise. When I code stuff in C++ or C#, I keep my objects immutable most of the time because it's the easiest…

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