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Defending the Undefendable

Walter Block · 初版 1991 年

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  • 讲真,人家提供了服务,市场上也有买家。奥地利学派的知名经济学家 Walter Block 写过一套挺有意思的书叫《Defending the Undefendable》,里面对贫民窟房东、发薪日高利贷者、皮条客之类的人群做了一系列思想实验。我不是要你赞同他的观点,或者跟着去给皮条客洗白,但读一读这些确实是个很有趣的……

    Honestly, they're providing a service and there are customers. Walter block who is a noted austrian-school economist did a fun set of books called "Defending the Undefendable" where he runs through thought experiments about Slumlords, Payday Lenders, Pimps, etc. I'm not asking you to agree with him, or start defending pimps but reading through some of those is a fun way to…

  • 在 Walter Block 写的《Defending the Undefendable》这本书里,有一些相当有说服力的论点直接反驳了这篇文章的观点。比如里面有一章叫“在拥挤的戏院里喊着火的人”,还有一章叫“诽谤或中伤者”。你可以直接在 Mises 免费下载:http://mises.org/books/defending.pdf

    There are some pretty convincing arguments that directly repudiate the points in this article in a book called Defending the Undefendable by Walter Block. For example, there's a chapter called "The Person Who Yells Fire in a Crowded Theatre" and one called "The Slanderer or Libeler." You can get it free from Mises here: http://mises.org/books/defending.pdf

  • ……那种看似权威又学术的做派,其实水分很大。倒不是说里面没有任何有趣的观点,有些自由意志主义的想法我一直挺感兴趣的,比如 Walter Block 在《Defending the Undefendable》里的某些说法。但我感觉大部分人应该都有过类似的经历:年轻时对某件事深信不疑,年纪大了信念动摇,然后就不太敢在自己并不了解的领域轻易站极端立场了……

    …presence that feels legitimate and scholarly, but it's not really. That's not to say there's not interesting arguments, I'll always be attracted to some libertarian ideas, e.g. some of Walter Block's Defending the Undefendable. But I think most people can relate to having strong convictions about something, growing older, losing the conviction, and then being wary of taking extreme positions in topics that they know little…

  • 我觉得那种经济学理论压根就不是这么论证的。哪怕是最极端的自由市场拥趸,比如 Walter Block(《Defending the Undefendable》的作者),也会把污染视为对私有财产的侵犯。污染导致的全球气候变暖肯定也属于这种论辩范畴。在他们看来,这无非是个交由法庭处理的事情,……

    I don't think that is ever really the argument made by that kind of economics. Even the most extreme free marketeers like Walter Block (author of "Defending the Undefendable") talk about pollution as a violation of private property. Climate change as a result of pollution definitely would come under that kind of argument. They would just say it's a matter for the courts,…

  • ……基于合法性来定义毒品。著名的“老鼠乐园”(Rat Park)实验表明,生活在丰富社交环境中的老鼠,摄入毒品的量远低于被隔离的老鼠,这充分说明了环境对成瘾的巨大影响。在《Defending the Undefendable》中,Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson 撰写的“毒贩”一章指出,毒贩通常被妖魔化为毁灭性的罪犯,但他们其实通过满足早已存在的需求,扮演着一种复杂的社会角色。他认为……

    …drugs based on legality. The Rat Park experiment showed that rats in enriched, social environments consumed far less drugs than isolated rats, highlighting how environment strongly affects addiction. In Defending the Undefendable, Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson’s chapter “The Pusher” argues that drug dealers, often vilified as destructive criminals, play a complex social role by supplying a demand that already exists. He suggests that…

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