…Yates 的书很棒。关于古典时期从口语文化向书面文化转变(及其对记忆、教育和希腊思想的影响)这一历史背景,另一本不可或缺的书是:- Eric Havelock 写的《柏拉图序论》(Preface to Plato)
…the Yates is great. Another indispensable book for historical context about the Classical transition from oral to literate culture (and its implications for memory, education, and Greek thought) is: - Preface to Plato, by Eric Havelock
…关注点。供参考,除了政治,《理想国》(The Republic)其实还探讨了许多其他话题。比如艺术、教育,以及古希腊社会。我几年前读过一本非常有意思的书叫《柏拉图序论》(Preface to Plato),书中提出柏拉图主要是在批判希腊传统的口头口语文化,以及那种强调死记硬背、程式化学习的模式。(这只是一个粗略的论点总结,但不管怎样……)
…concern. FWIW, The Republic has a lot of things to say about other subjects besides politics. Things like art, and education, ancient Greek society. I read a really interesting book a few years ago, Preface to Plato, that argued Plato was mostly criticizing the traditional, oral culture of Greece, with its emphasis on rote, formulaic learning. (That's a crude summary of the argument, but anyway...)
…Yates 的书很棒。关于古典时期从口语文化向书面文化转变(及其对记忆、教育和希腊思想的影响)这一历史背景,另一本不可或缺的书是:- Eric Havelock 写的《柏拉图序论》(Preface to Plato)
…the Yates is great. Another indispensable book for historical context about the Classical transition from oral to literate culture (and its implications for memory, education, and Greek thought) is: - Preface to Plato, by Eric Havelock
我推荐 Havelock 的《柏拉图序论》(Preface to Plato)和 Walter Ong 的《口语文化与书面文化》(Orality and Literacy)
I recommend Havelock's Preface to Plato and Walter Ong's Orality and Literacy
…关注点。供参考,除了政治,《理想国》(The Republic)其实还探讨了许多其他话题。比如艺术、教育,以及古希腊社会。我几年前读过一本非常有意思的书叫《柏拉图序论》(Preface to Plato),书中提出柏拉图主要是在批判希腊传统的口头口语文化,以及那种强调死记硬背、程式化学习的模式。(这只是一个粗略的论点总结,但不管怎样……)
…concern. FWIW, The Republic has a lot of things to say about other subjects besides politics. Things like art, and education, ancient Greek society. I read a really interesting book a few years ago, Preface to Plato, that argued Plato was mostly criticizing the traditional, oral culture of Greece, with its emphasis on rote, formulaic learning. (That's a crude summary of the argument, but anyway...)