联邦党人文集

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• jacobolus · 2010 年

  …从很多记录来看，在文化上相当同质，而且崇尚平等/任人唯贤，至少对公民来说是如此。* * * 我觉得迄今为止我看过最好的剖析依然是托克维尔的《论美国的民主》。我也推荐《联邦党人文集》，尤其是第 10 篇和第 51 篇，它针对这类问题提供了务实的解决方案，其基础是麦迪逊和杰斐逊等聪明能干的老哥在尝试治理初生…时积累的数十年一手经验。

  …many accounts pretty culturally uniform and egalitarian/meritocratic, at least for citizens. * * * I think the best analysis I know is still Tocqueville’s Democracy in America. I also recommend The Federalist Papers, particularly Nos. 10 and 51, for a pragmatic solution to these kinds of problems, based on the decades of first-hand experience some smart blokes like Madison and Jefferson had trying to run fledgling…

• anigbrowl · 2013 年

  太棒的发现了。如果你去读《联邦党人文集》，很快就会明白，开国元勋们绝非许多宪法狂热者所宣扬的那种天真理想主义者，而是一帮相当清醒现实（甚至有点犬儒）的人，他们非常担心普通人缺乏能力…

  A fantastic find. If you read the Federalist Papers, it quickly becomes clear that the founders were not so much wide-eyed idealists as many Constitution-thumpers would have it, but a fairly cynical bunch who were as worried about the inability of people…

• mkempe · 2018 年

  …早就有了国民警卫队（National Guard）[1]——也就是民兵——这在州一级对联邦层面潜在的独裁统治提供了充分的制衡。为了进一步自主学习，大家可以去读读《联邦党人文集》，特别是麦迪逊写的第 46 篇（有关该议题的讨论见 [2]）。[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_S... [2] http://tracinskiletter.com/2018/03/21/the-advantage-of-being...

  …already have the National Guard [1] --aka militias-- which provide ample check from the State level against a would-be dictatorship at the Federal level. For further self-education, one may want to read The Federalist Papers, in particular no 46 written by Madison (see [2] for a discussion of the issue). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_S... [2] http://tracinskiletter.com/2018/03/21/the-advantage-of-being...

• paganel · 2018 年

  …几千年。我最近正在读一本绝妙的书，它建立在“对人性的不信任”之上，然而却产生了巨大的积极影响——我说的就是麦迪逊、汉密尔顿和杰伊合著的文章合集《联邦党人文集》。

  …millennia. I'm just reading a wonderful book that it's based on not trusting people and which, nevertheless, has had an immense positive influence, I'm talking about the collection of articles called "The Federalist Papers" by Madison, Hamilton and Jay.

• aaron-lebo · 2018 年

  …民主国家的研究表明两院制是有利的（例如 http://wikisum.com/w/Lijphart:_Patterns_of_democracy）。再次强调，这不是说他们当年也是这么考虑的，但去读一读《联邦党人文集》（尤其是麦迪逊写的篇目），看看他们在制定某些解决方案时对党争/权力制衡考量了多少。

  …democracies suggest that bicameralism is a benefit (ex http://wikisum.com/w/Lijphart:_Patterns_of_democracy). Again, that's not saying that's what they were considering then, but also read some of the Federalist Papers (Madison in particular) and how much they were weighing factions/balance of power into some of these solutions.

• lwhalen · 2016 年

  …对民众武器的监管不仅不是第二修正案中使用该字眼的本意，而且国父们之所以写下它，正是为了让政府根本无权这么做。去读读《联邦党人文集》（特别是第 46 篇），汉密尔顿、麦迪逊等人在其中深刻阐述了修正案背后的意图。显而易见，他们制定第二修正案的本意绝非限制民众…的能力

  …oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it. Read the Federalist Papers (specifically #46), in which Hamilton, Madison, etc, give significant insight into the intent behind the Amendments. It is plain that they intended the 2nd Amendment to not restrict the people's ability…

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