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廷臣论

The Book of the Courtier

Conte Baldassarre Castiglione · 初版 1528 年

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  • ……托克维尔的《旧制度与大革命》,还有他的1848年法国革命史。伯纳德·贝林的《美国革命的思想意识渊源》、波利比乌斯、Lionhearted 推荐了一本关于卡斯蒂利奥内的书——卡斯蒂利奥内本人的《廷臣论》非常值得一读,而且应该不难找。

    …Revolution_ by de Tocqueville, also his history of 1848. _The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution_, Bernard Bailyn Polybius Lionhearted recommends a book on Castiglione--Castiglione's own book of the courtier is well worth reading and should be easy to find.

  • 我高中时很喜欢《孙子兵法》。感觉对我早年谈薪水之类的很有帮助。后来读了巴尔达萨雷·卡斯蒂利奥内的《廷臣论》——依我看和《孙子兵法》讲的是同一个路数。

    I liked the Art of War in high school. Feel like it helped me a lot with stuff like negotiating salary in my early years. Later -- The Book of the Courtier by Baldassare Castiglione -- same topic as Art of War I'd say.

  • 最早出自那本读来很流畅的《廷臣论》https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_the_Courtier

    Originally from the very readable Book of the Courtier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_the_Courtier

  • 摘自《廷臣论》(1528年,1901年英译本)第75页:“实则此事大违常理,令人称奇:成熟之年,于诸般事宜本借长年阅历使人心智愈臻完备,……

    From THE BOOK OF THE COURTIER (1528 tr. 1901) p.75 "And verily it seems quite contrary to reason and worthy to be wondered at, that ripe age, which in other matters is wont to make men's judgment more perfect with long experience,…

  • ……他们不会做的事。这点我也不太认同。某些位高权重的人极度在意自己看上去蠢不蠢,过去他们常常为此决斗至死。我这周一直在读《廷臣论》,很显然哪怕早在16世纪,高层人物就非常在意自己会不会出丑,甚至连自己跳舞姿势好不好看都计较得不行。

    …they don't do. I also don't know about this. Certain high status people are obsessively concerned with whether they look silly. They used to routinely fight to the death over it. I've been reading the Book of the Courtier this week, and it's clear that even back in the 16th century high status people were very concerned about whether they looked silly, or even whether their dances looked silly.

  • > 我这周一直在读《廷臣论》,很显然哪怕早在16世纪,高层人物就非常在意自己会不会出丑,甚至连自己跳舞姿势好不好看都计较得不行。结合当时的语境……

    > I've been reading the Book of the Courtier this week, and it's clear that even back in the 16th century high status people were very concerned about whether they looked silly, or even whether their dances looked silly. In the context of the situation…

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