《框架的神话》封面

框架的神话

The Myth of the Framework

Karl Popper、M. A. Notturno · 初版 1984 年

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  • ……现实、计算、时间旅行)。但这没关系,因为每一章塞进的思想密度都极高。http://www.amazon.com/Fabric-Reality-Parallel-Universes-Impl... 波普尔的书很多。或许《框架的神话》(The Myth of the Framework)是个不错的选择。我记得里面收录了他给还不熟悉其哲学体系的人做的演讲内容,所以那些部分格外清晰好懂。提出一个实际的道德目标……

    …reality, computation, time travel). But that's ok, because of the density of ideas fit into each chapter. http://www.amazon.com/Fabric-Reality-Parallel-Universes-Impl... Popper has lots of books. Maybe The Myth of the Framework is a good choice. As I recall, it has content from lectures he gave to people not already familiar with his philosophy, so those parts are especially clear and accessible. Proposing an actual moral goal…

  • 《真实的面纱》(The Fabric of Reality)、《源泉》(The Fountainhead)、《框架的神话》(The Myth of the Framework)、《 integer 环境主义者》(The Skeptical Environmentalist)、《自由的机制》(The Machinery of Freedom)等。最让我折服的始终是思想本身。

    The Fabric of Reality The Fountainhead The Myth of the Framework The Skeptical Environmentalist The Machinery of Freedom etc Ideas are what impresses me most.

  • ……在文化力量的驱动下,基本上站在了拥有相同深层价值观的一方(而且我们或多或少都来自同一种“现代”文化)。我们可以进行富有成效的讨论,能把事情解决好。《框架的神话》(The Myth of the Framework)就是一本很切题的书。

    …side with approximately the same bunch of deep values, by the power of culture (and we more or less all come from the same culture, "modern"). We can have productive discussions, we can work it out. The Myth of the Framework is a relevant book.

  • 只有当你能让大家在某个前提上达成共识时,事情才存在所谓的真相。持有相同前提的两个自由意志主义者能够展开有意义的辩论。这就是框架的神话。参见波普尔的同名著作:http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Framework-Defence-Science-Rationa... 除了跨框架是否能进行有效辩论这个难题之外,还有你(可能……

    There's only a truth to the matter if you can get people to agree on a premise. Two libertarians who adopt the same premises can have a meaningful debate This is the myth of the framework. See Popper's book by that name: http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Framework-Defence-Science-Rationa... Besides the issue of whether productive debate is possible across frameworks, there is also your (possibly…

  • ……比《纽约客》文章提供的深度要深得多)。是的,我知道什么是本体论。是的,我学过哲学。要不要我给你反向推荐几个哲学家让你去读读?读读卡尔·波普尔的《框架的神话》(The Myth of the Framework)和《开放社会及其敌人》(The Open Society And Its Enemies),你或许能学到点东西。如果你非要贬低自由、人权、和平合作以及现代西方文明的其他维度,并且否认它们的客观价值,……

    …than New Yorker articles offer). Yes I am aware of what ontology is. Yes I have studied philosophy. Do you want me to counter-cite philosophers for you to read? You might learn something by reading _The Myth of the Framework_ and _The Open Society And Its Enemies_ by Karl Popper. If you want to trash freedom, human rights, peaceful cooperation, and other aspects of modern Western civilization, and deny their objective value,…

  • ……对跨范式的局部交流感到悲观,但波普尔更乐观一些,他认为只要付出努力,即便跨越范式/文化/框架,我们也能互相学习(参见波普尔的《框架的神话》,即同名核心文章)。第8章我也翻阅了,但没发现任何针对波普尔可证伪主义的批评。如果你仍确信那里面有,请用你自己的话解释一下,或者指明具体的段落……

    …pessimistic about partial communication across paradigms, but Popper is more optimistic and says by an effort we can learn from each other even across paradigms/cultures/frameworks (see Popper's _The Myth of the Framework_, title essay). I looked through ch8 also, but didn't spot any criticism of Popper's falsificationism. If you are still convinced it is there, please explain it in your own words or site specific paragraphs.…

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