我是个怪圈
I Am a Strange Loop
Douglas R. Hofstadter · 初版 2007 年
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为什么值得读
- 比作者早年的大部头更平易近人且读来轻松愉快
- 避开常见误区，从反馈建模解释意识如何涌现
- 为理解自我与心智运作机制提供了独到洞见
Hofstadter 阔别已久后重回 Gödel, Escher, Bach 的主题——对意识与自我认同的本质提出了一种新颖且具争议性的观点。当我们说“我”时，究竟是什么意思？一个自我、灵魂、意识或“我”，能否从单纯的物质中诞生？如果不能，那你我又为何会存在于此？本书提出，理解自我与意识的关键在于存在于我们大脑中的一种特殊的抽象反馈回路。在微观深处，人脑是粒子的混沌浓汤；在更高层次上，它是一片神经元丛林；而在更高的层次上，它是一个抽象网络，
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这本书我买了好多年前了，经历和楼主差不多。但后来有一天有人送了我一本《我是个怪圈》（I Am a Strange Loop），我拿起来读了之后发现比那本爽得多。看了一点之后，Hofstadter 还在书里对 GEB 表达了些许歉意，说那是年纪很轻时搞出来的东西汇总。我记得他当时才24岁？我觉得这……
I'd owned this book for many years and had a similar experience to OP. But one day someone gave me `I am a Strange Loop`, which I started reading and enjoyed way more. After getting in a little bit Hofstadter makes some apologies for GEB saying it was the sum of work of a very young person. I think he was 24? I think it's…
……去思考它等等……）的信息（无论世界如何运转）都需要得到解释。在我看来（Imho），Douglas Hofstadter 在《我是个怪圈》（I Am a Strange Loop）中最接近避开所有这类陷阱来给出解释。倒不是说他真的彻底解释清楚了，但至少他正视了那些平时会让我直接否定各种意识理论的关键点。
…think about it etc...) of the information (the world, no matter how it works) needs to be explained. Imho Douglas Hofstadter comes closest to trying to explain it without all that kind of pitfalls in "I Am a Strange Loop". Not that it actually truly explains it, but at least it acknowledges those things that make me normally dismiss theories that could explain consciousness.
Hofstadter 在《GEB》（Godel, Escher, Bach）和《我是个怪圈》（I Am a Strange Loop）里给出了一个相当到位的定义：意识产生于大脑中的系统开始对外部世界建立模型，接着开始对其“对外部世界的建模”进行建模，然后再对其“对外部世界建模的建模”进行建模……
hofstadter has a pretty decent defintion worked out in 'godel, escher, bach" and "i am a strange loop": consciousness arises when systems in the brain model the external world, and then begin modeling their modelling of the external world, and then begin modelling their modelling of their modelling...
……至少在西方）是从各种宗教、灵修，以及那些读的人极少、看懂的人更少的晦涩至极的哲学著作中拼凑出来的。如果你觉得我的解释太单薄，可能会觉得 Richard Hofstadter 的书《我是个怪圈》（I Am A Strange Loop）很有启发。
…west, at least) is cobbled together from various religions, spiritualities, and extremely, extremely dense philosophers read by few and understood by fewer. You might find Richard Hofstadter's Book "I Am A Strange Loop" illuminating if you find my explanation meager.
你可能会有兴趣读读 Douglas Hofstadter 的书《我是个怪圈》（I Am A Strange Loop）。
You might be interested in reading Douglas Hofstadter's book I Am A Strange Loop.
排名不分先后……Douglas Hofstadter 的《我是个怪圈》（I Am a Strange Loop）——极大地影响了我对意识运作方式的看法；Douglas Hofstadter 的《哥德尔、艾舍尔、巴赫》（Godel, Escher, Bach）——让我在诸多话题上陷入了更深的思考；Peter 的《动物解放》（Animal Liberation）……
In no particular order ... I Am a Strange Loop by Douglas Hofstadter - strongly influenced my beliefs about how consciousness works Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter - made me think more deeply about so many topics Animal Liberation by Peter…