…我们拥有的唯一道德货币。这让我走向了纯素主义(veganism)和反出生主义(anti-natalism),因为阻止个体遭受痛苦的最佳方式,从一开始就是让这个个体根本不要存在(参见:David Benatar 的《Better Never to Have Been》;或《传道书》4:2-3)。不用说,这些都是极其不受待见的哲学观点。鉴于此,我开始意识到我们骨子里其实都是虚无主义者。我们拥抱宗教或其他…
…the only moral currency we have. This led me to veganism and anti-natalism, as the best way to prevent individual suffering is for the individual to never exist in the first place (see: David Benatar's Better Never to Have Been; or Ecclesiastes 4:2-3). Needless to say, these are wildly unpopular philosophies. In light of this, I began to come to the realization that we're all nihilists at our core. We embrace religion or other…
在我有孩子之前,我记得自己读过 Benatar 的书《Better Never to Have Been》(而且看得很过瘾)。我也记得那本书不出所料地让人感到致郁,于是我拿起 Christine Overall 的《Why Have Children》来换个视角。她提出了一个更偏冷峻客观——但读起来很顺畅——的论据,而且…
Back before i had my kid i remember reading (and really enjoying) Benatar's book, "Better Never to Have Been." I also remember it being a downer, unsurprisingly, and picking up Christine Overall's "Why Have Children" to get another perspective. She offered a somewhat more clinical — but readable — argument and…
David Benatar 的《Better Never to Have Been: The Harm Of Coming Into Existence》。这是我读过的关于一个人被带到这个世界上意味着什么、为什么这对当事人来说弊大于利,以及为什么…的最强论证。
Better Never to Have Been: The Harm Of Coming Into Existence by David Benatar . The best argument I've read as to what it means for a human being to be brought into existence, why it does that person more harm than good, and why…
…人)但白人纯素主义者根本没准备好去真正面对他们理念在逻辑上的必然推论。去读读 David Benatar 吧(顺便说一句,他是一个真正知行合一的纯素主义者)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been
…person) But white vegans aren’t prepared to actually reckon with the logical conclusion of their ideas. Go read David Benatar (he’s a vegan whose actually consistent btw) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been
…我们拥有的唯一道德货币。这让我走向了纯素主义(veganism)和反出生主义(anti-natalism),因为阻止个体遭受痛苦的最佳方式,从一开始就是让这个个体根本不要存在(参见:David Benatar 的《Better Never to Have Been》;或《传道书》4:2-3)。不用说,这些都是极其不受待见的哲学观点。鉴于此,我开始意识到我们骨子里其实都是虚无主义者。我们拥抱宗教或其他…
…the only moral currency we have. This led me to veganism and anti-natalism, as the best way to prevent individual suffering is for the individual to never exist in the first place (see: David Benatar's Better Never to Have Been; or Ecclesiastes 4:2-3). Needless to say, these are wildly unpopular philosophies. In light of this, I began to come to the realization that we're all nihilists at our core. We embrace religion or other…
在我有孩子之前,我记得自己读过 Benatar 的书《Better Never to Have Been》(而且看得很过瘾)。我也记得那本书不出所料地让人感到致郁,于是我拿起 Christine Overall 的《Why Have Children》来换个视角。她提出了一个更偏冷峻客观——但读起来很顺畅——的论据,而且…
Back before i had my kid i remember reading (and really enjoying) Benatar's book, "Better Never to Have Been." I also remember it being a downer, unsurprisingly, and picking up Christine Overall's "Why Have Children" to get another perspective. She offered a somewhat more clinical — but readable — argument and…
David Benatar 的《Better Never to Have Been: The Harm Of Coming Into Existence》。这是我读过的关于一个人被带到这个世界上意味着什么、为什么这对当事人来说弊大于利,以及为什么…的最强论证。
Better Never to Have Been: The Harm Of Coming Into Existence by David Benatar . The best argument I've read as to what it means for a human being to be brought into existence, why it does that person more harm than good, and why…
…人)但白人纯素主义者根本没准备好去真正面对他们理念在逻辑上的必然推论。去读读 David Benatar 吧(顺便说一句,他是一个真正知行合一的纯素主义者)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been
…person) But white vegans aren’t prepared to actually reckon with the logical conclusion of their ideas. Go read David Benatar (he’s a vegan whose actually consistent btw) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been
想看令人信服的对立观点,请参考《Better Never to Have Been》:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been
For a compelling opposing view see "Better Never to Have Been": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been
可以看看挺有意思的哲学书《Every Cradle is a Grave》(每个摇篮都是坟墓)和《Better Never to Have Been》(最好从未存在过)。容易抑郁的读者慎入。
See interesting philosophy books ‘Every Cradle is a Grave’ and ‘Better Never to Have Been’. Not for the easily depressed reader.