萨摩亚人的成年
Coming of age in Samoa
Margaret Mead · 初版 1928 年
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- 早期女性主义代表学者的人类学成名作
- 对自然状态下两性与通奸观念提出了轰动论断
这部经典人类学研究描述了20世纪20年代萨摩亚群岛文化背景下女孩们的成长历程，对童年、性别角色和文化等议题提出了极具启发性的见解。
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Coming of age in Samoa
Margaret Mead · 初版 1928 年
这部经典人类学研究描述了20世纪20年代萨摩亚群岛文化背景下女孩们的成长历程，对童年、性别角色和文化等议题提出了极具启发性的见解。
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……排挤出学术界，导致这些问题从未得到妥善研究？http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/science/08tier.html?_r=0 而且玛格丽特·米德基本上就是个骗子？http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_in_Samoa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Freeman （玛格丽特·米德是一位早期女权主义者）
…out of academia, so these issues never get researched properly? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/science/08tier.html?_r=0 and that margaret mead was basically a fraud? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_in_Samoa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Freeman (margaret mead is an early feminist)
看起来充斥着一厢情愿的想法和对当下意识形态的投射，就跟玛格丽特·米德在《萨摩亚人的成年》里搞的那套一样，她后来也承认书里很多内容都是捏造的。
Seems like a lot of wishful thinking and projection of current ideology, a la Margaret Mead in "Coming of Age in Samoa" of which she later admitted she fabricated much.
> 而且玛格丽特·米德基本上就是个骗子？http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_in_Samoa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Freeman 你到底看没看过你自己贴的链接文章？大体上，弗里曼的批评在人类学界并没有被普遍接受。几位萨摩亚学者……
> and that margaret mead was basically a fraud? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_in_Samoa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Freeman Did you even read your own linked articles? Generally, Freeman's critique has not been accepted in the anthropological community. Several Samoan scholars…
“她后来也承认书里很多内容都是捏造的。”这说法错得离谱。http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_in_Samoa 顶多也就是另一位人类学家提出过一个极具争议的说法，称米德的访谈对象对她编造了事实。
"of which she later admitted she fabricated much." That is stunningly inaccurate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_in_Samoa At most there is a wildly controversial claim from another anthropologist that Mead's subjects told her fabrications.
……原则。有一本老书，讲的是萨摩亚的生活，那里的孩子由整个村子共同抚养，过得也挺好。一旦到了青春期＝成年，性问题就出现了，这与美国的体验大相径庭。玛格丽特·米德所著的《萨摩亚人的成年》在写到涉性年龄段时饱受批评，但对童年时期的描述还是经得起推敲的——尽管那里是一种单一文化。总而言之，我们需要解决这个问题，好让我们的……
…principal. There is an old book, about life in Samoa where kids are raised by the village, and they do OK. Once they reach puberty = come of age, sex emerges and it is far different to the USA experience. The book, Coming of Age in Samoa, by Margaret Mead has been criticised as it prgresses into the sexual years, but it stand up well for the junior years - albeit there is a monoculture. To sum up, we need to solve this problem so our…
我觉得玛格丽特·米德身上也发生过类似的事。在《萨摩亚人的成年》里，米德提出了一个荒唐（且彻头彻尾虚假）的论调，说在“自然”状态下，通奸根本不是个事儿。老兄，全都是自由恋爱啊。她表面上是根据萨摩亚人对她说的话总结的，但那些人……
I believe something similar happened with Margaret Mead. In "Coming of Age in Samoa", Mead made the wild (and completely bogus) claim that, in the state of "nature", adultery is not a problem. It's all free love, man. She ostensibly drew on what Samoans were telling her, but what they…