《人类的成就》封面

人类的成就

Human Accomplishment

Charles A. Murray · 初版 2003 年

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为什么值得读

  • 统计分析数千年间数千位杰出创新者
  • 以历史影响力为尺度深入研究天才高度
  • 直面不同文化在文明发展中的影响分布

一部让人联想起 Barzun 的 From Dawn to Decadence 的全景式文化考察。“在不规则的时代与分散的地域,人类取得了伟大的成就。Human Accomplishment 讲述的正是这些属于艺术和科学领域的伟大成就,以及创造这些成就的人们。”Charles Murray 对从荷马时代至今的人类卓越成就的独特叙述由此拉开帷幕。Murray 运用了历史学家在过去一个世纪中所开发、却极少应用于大众读物的研究方法,编制了那些曾经……

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  • 书在这里,前提设定挺有意思的。https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Accomplishment Murray 对公元前 800 年至 1950 年间人类成就各个领域中最前列的 4000 位创新者进行了排名。在每个领域,Murray 都找了若干来源(主流百科全书、历史著作和调查综述)……

    Here's the book, it's an interesting premise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Accomplishment Murray ranks the leading 4,000 innovators in several fields of human accomplishment from 800 BC to 1950. In each field Murray identifies a number of sources (leading encyclopedias, histories and surveys)…

  • …各项测试的差异,所以最终你需要主观判定纳入哪些测试、以及从测试结果中提炼多少信息。关于天才,我在 Charles Murray 的书《人类成就》(Human Accomplishment)中发现了一个更具启发性的研究。当你的样本是所有在历史上留下印记的人类,而你的衡量标准是影响力以及人们对它的铭记时,你能更深入地领会人类能力所能达到的巅峰……

    …of the tests, so ultimately you end up with a judgement call for which tests to include, and how much to gather from their results. A far more enlightening study of genius, I have found in the book "Human Accomplishment", by Charles Murray. When you're sample is all of those humans who have left a mark on history, and your measure is impact, and our remembrance of it, you learn far more about the heights of human capability,…

  • 这是对上面回复的回应;层级太深了我没法直接回复那条评论。我对 Charles Murray 的看法也差不多,而且我觉得《人类成就》(Human Accomplishment)这本书并非毫无瑕疵——事实上毛病很多。尽管如此,整本书还是值得一读的。说实话,我认为它直面了关于文明影响力分布的一些严肃事实。某些文化的事实……

    This is the response to the reply above; I'm unable to directly respond to a comment that deep. I thought similar things about Charles Murray, and I don't think that the Human Accomplishment book is without flaws -- it has many. Nonetheless, the whole book is worth reading. Honestly, I think it faces some serious facts on the distribution of impact on civilization. The fact that some cultures,…

  • Charles Murray 的《人类成就:公元前 800 年至 1950 年艺术与科学领域的卓越追求》(Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950)。作者通过统计分析找出各探索领域中最有影响力的人物,从哲学……

    Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950 by Charles Murray. The author did statistical analysis to find the most influential figures in each field of endeavour, from philosophy…

  • …其实是个种族主义者”?https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/07/why-is-charles-murray... > 关于 Murray 种族世界观,一个更有说服力的证据来自他那本鲜有人读的 2003 年著作《人类成就》(Human Accomplishment),该文本证实了上面“Charles Murray 种族主义观点清单”中的第 2 点:黑人文化成就几乎可以忽略不计。> 《人类成就》表明 Murray 长期痴迷于……

    …in fact a racist"? https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/07/why-is-charles-murray... > A far more illuminating piece of evidence about the Murray racial worldview is found in his little-read 2003 book Human Accomplishment, the text that substantiates point 2 on the above List Of Racist Charles Murray Beliefs: Black cultural achievements are almost negligible. > Human Accomplishment shows that Murray has a long obsession…

  • …完全没有去碰推动这一变革的现代主义者的论点,或者美学学术研究……篇幅这么长却没什么干货。读起来有点像 Charles Murray《人类成就》(Human Accomplishment)的和谐版,后者是一个试图论证西方文化优越性的“量化”“论证”,在认知上犯了严重错误 [1]。Scott Alexander 有些观点不错,但这篇绝对不算。而且要给个……

    …engage remotely with arguments from modernists who drove this change, or the scholarship on aesthetics,… very little substance for the length. It sort of read like a sanitized version of Charles Murray’s “Human Accomplishment”, which is a “quantitative” “argument” for why Western culture is superior that commits severe epistemic mistakes [1]. Scott Alexander has some good takes, but this is not one of them. And to give a…

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