对任何想让 Lisp 流行起来的人，我的建议是：写一本对应 Mark Pilgrim《深入 Python》（Dive Into Python）那样的 Lisp 版教程。或者至少琢磨一下，以 Lisp 目前的状态，写出这样一本书是否可行。
My suggestion for anyone wanting to make Lisp popular: make a Lisp analogue of Mark Pilgrim's "Dive Into Python". Or at least consider whether it is possible to write such a book for Lisp in its current state.
……已经相当稳固和成熟了。它们易学好用（Django 的入门门槛/学习曲线低得惊人），而且功能强大。Mark Pilgrim 写过一本好书叫《深入 Python》（Dive into Python），在他的官网上免费提供：http://diveintopython.org/ 如果你想尝尝 Python 的甜头，它能带你非常迅速地上手。
…are pretty well entrenched and established. They are easy to learn and work with (Django has an incredibly low barrier to entry/learning curve) and powerful. Mark Pilgrim wrote a great book called "Dive into Python" which is available for free on his website: http://diveintopython.org/ It gets things moving pretty quickly if you're looking to get a taste of what Python offers.
……简直不能更满意了。书很厚（最新版快 1000 页了），但花的时间非常值。接下来是《PHP 实战》（PHP in Action），风格类似于 Mark Pilgrim 的《深入 Python》（顺便说一句，这书牛逼极了）后半部分章节，是和 Chris Shiflett 合著的。之后我又读了 Ullman 的两本书（《PHP for the WWW》和《PHP 5 高级编程》），还有 Powers 的书（《PHP 解决方案》和《PHP 面向对象解决方案》）……
…could not have been happier. It's hefty (nearly 1,000 pages for the latest edition), but was well worth the time. Next up was 'PHP in Action', which is similar to the later chapters in Mark Pilgrim's Dive Into Python (one hell of a book, btw) and was coauthored by Chris Shiflett. I've since read two of Ullman's books (PHP for the WWW and PHP 5 Advanced), the Powers books (PHP Solutions and PHP Object-Oriented Solutions),…
不管你选 Python 还是 Ruby，都应该尽量避免一上来就一头扎进 Django 或 Rails。先啃完 Mark Pilgrim 的《深入 Python》（Dive Into Python）或者 _why 的《写给 Ruby 大师的辛辣指南》（Poignant Guide to Ruby）。如果你想写个 Web 应用，从 Google AppEngine 搭配它的 webapp 框架开始，或者从 Heroku 搭配 Sinatra 开始。
Whether you pick Python or Ruby, you should try to avoid diving right into Django or Rails. Work through Mark Pilgrim's "Dive Into Python" or _why's "Poignant Guide to Ruby". If you want to write a web app, start with Google AppEngine w/ it's webapp framework, or Heroku w/ Sinatra.
……可能。花上一两周把编程基础搞定（哪怕那时候你还写不出多好的程序），你的处境都会好得多。试试 Mark Pilgrim 的《深入 Python》（Dive Into Python）。网上有免费版，而且 Python 是最适合入门的语言之一：http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html 除此之外，去 Stack Overflow 搜搜你问题的各种变体——早就有人回答过了……
…possible. Spend a week or two getting the fundamentals of programming (even if you won't be able to program very well at the end of that time), and you'll be in a much better place. Try Mark Pilgrim's Dive Into Python. It's free online, and python is one of the better introductory languages: http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html Aside from that, search stackoverflow for variations of your question - it's been answered…
……以及重写开源项目里和我需求类似的代码片段。如今在网上有很多以这种方式学习开发的方法，包括优秀的开源书籍，比如《深入 Python》（Dive Into Python）、《像计算机科学家一样思考 Python》（Think Python）和《笨办法学 Python》（Learn Python the Hard Way）。而在设计领域就没这么多资源了。反正网上没有。我不写“如何做设计”，因为和编程一样，这东西你必须……
…and rewriting parts of open source projects that did things similar to things I wanted to do. There's lots of ways to learn development like that today, online, including great open source books like Dive Into Python and Think Python and Learn Python the Hard Way. There isn't so much of that for design. Not online, anyway. I don't write about "how to design" because, like programming, it's something you have to…
对任何想让 Lisp 流行起来的人，我的建议是：写一本对应 Mark Pilgrim《深入 Python》（Dive Into Python）那样的 Lisp 版教程。或者至少琢磨一下，以 Lisp 目前的状态，写出这样一本书是否可行。
My suggestion for anyone wanting to make Lisp popular: make a Lisp analogue of Mark Pilgrim's "Dive Into Python". Or at least consider whether it is possible to write such a book for Lisp in its current state.
……已经相当稳固和成熟了。它们易学好用（Django 的入门门槛/学习曲线低得惊人），而且功能强大。Mark Pilgrim 写过一本好书叫《深入 Python》（Dive into Python），在他的官网上免费提供：http://diveintopython.org/ 如果你想尝尝 Python 的甜头，它能带你非常迅速地上手。
…are pretty well entrenched and established. They are easy to learn and work with (Django has an incredibly low barrier to entry/learning curve) and powerful. Mark Pilgrim wrote a great book called "Dive into Python" which is available for free on his website: http://diveintopython.org/ It gets things moving pretty quickly if you're looking to get a taste of what Python offers.
……简直不能更满意了。书很厚（最新版快 1000 页了），但花的时间非常值。接下来是《PHP 实战》（PHP in Action），风格类似于 Mark Pilgrim 的《深入 Python》（顺便说一句，这书牛逼极了）后半部分章节，是和 Chris Shiflett 合著的。之后我又读了 Ullman 的两本书（《PHP for the WWW》和《PHP 5 高级编程》），还有 Powers 的书（《PHP 解决方案》和《PHP 面向对象解决方案》）……
…could not have been happier. It's hefty (nearly 1,000 pages for the latest edition), but was well worth the time. Next up was 'PHP in Action', which is similar to the later chapters in Mark Pilgrim's Dive Into Python (one hell of a book, btw) and was coauthored by Chris Shiflett. I've since read two of Ullman's books (PHP for the WWW and PHP 5 Advanced), the Powers books (PHP Solutions and PHP Object-Oriented Solutions),…
不管你选 Python 还是 Ruby，都应该尽量避免一上来就一头扎进 Django 或 Rails。先啃完 Mark Pilgrim 的《深入 Python》（Dive Into Python）或者 _why 的《写给 Ruby 大师的辛辣指南》（Poignant Guide to Ruby）。如果你想写个 Web 应用，从 Google AppEngine 搭配它的 webapp 框架开始，或者从 Heroku 搭配 Sinatra 开始。
Whether you pick Python or Ruby, you should try to avoid diving right into Django or Rails. Work through Mark Pilgrim's "Dive Into Python" or _why's "Poignant Guide to Ruby". If you want to write a web app, start with Google AppEngine w/ it's webapp framework, or Heroku w/ Sinatra.
……可能。花上一两周把编程基础搞定（哪怕那时候你还写不出多好的程序），你的处境都会好得多。试试 Mark Pilgrim 的《深入 Python》（Dive Into Python）。网上有免费版，而且 Python 是最适合入门的语言之一：http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html 除此之外，去 Stack Overflow 搜搜你问题的各种变体——早就有人回答过了……
…possible. Spend a week or two getting the fundamentals of programming (even if you won't be able to program very well at the end of that time), and you'll be in a much better place. Try Mark Pilgrim's Dive Into Python. It's free online, and python is one of the better introductory languages: http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html Aside from that, search stackoverflow for variations of your question - it's been answered…
……以及重写开源项目里和我需求类似的代码片段。如今在网上有很多以这种方式学习开发的方法，包括优秀的开源书籍，比如《深入 Python》（Dive Into Python）、《像计算机科学家一样思考 Python》（Think Python）和《笨办法学 Python》（Learn Python the Hard Way）。而在设计领域就没这么多资源了。反正网上没有。我不写“如何做设计”，因为和编程一样，这东西你必须……
…and rewriting parts of open source projects that did things similar to things I wanted to do. There's lots of ways to learn development like that today, online, including great open source books like Dive Into Python and Think Python and Learn Python the Hard Way. There isn't so much of that for design. Not online, anyway. I don't write about "how to design" because, like programming, it's something you have to…