穿破裤子的慈善家
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists
Robert Tressell · 初版 1914 年
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- 以亲身经历揭露资本体系对底层劳工的盘剥
- 有力破除了对社会主义的偏见并为其申辩
- 生动印证政治与劳资议题历经百年依然如故
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The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists
Robert Tressell · 初版 1914 年
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……在身后留下一个政府。去中心化的政府也是有可能的。> 社会主义和共产主义消亡得越彻底，我们就越接近一种切实可行的提升底层劳工水平的方法。你读过 Robert Tressell 写的《穿破裤子的慈善家》吗？[0] 他自己就是一名工人阶级，论证了社会主义的合理性，以及为什么资本主义这种旨在把一个阶级压在另一个阶级之下的制度是不可取的。资本主义……
…leaving behind it a government. Decentralised government is also possible. >socialism and communism die out the closer we'll be to an actual approach to raising up the working poor. Have you read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell?[0] He himself was a working class man making the case for Socialism, and why capitalism, a system which is designed to keep one class below the other, is not favourable. Capitalism…
……在没有先推荐给别人之前自己就看完了：迈克尔·克莱顿的《Travels》——我才刚领悟到的许多有用的人生教训 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Travels-Vintage-Departures-Michael-... 《穿破裤子的慈善家》https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ragged-Trousered-Philanthropists-Wo... 《Ishmael》https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ishmael-Novel-Book-1-ebook/dp/B000S... 另外的想法，罗伯特·海因莱因在……似乎不太出名
…them without me passing them on first: Travels - Michael Crichton - a number of useful life lessons I'm only just catching up on https://www.amazon.co.uk/Travels-Vintage-Departures-Michael-... The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ragged-Trousered-Philanthropists-Wo... Ishmael https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ishmael-Novel-Book-1-ebook/dp/B000S... Another thought, Robert Heinlein doesn't seem well known in the…
……绝佳的人生启示。不知为何我从没见过其他读过它的人。《Ishmael》——在这上面有人推荐过，但在英国似乎不太出名。我向所有人推荐过都觉得好看的《穿破裤子的慈善家》——证明了 100 年来政治压根没怎么变。《天地一沙鸥》——同样在这上面挺出名，但在大众里没那么火
…excellent lessons on life. I've never met anyone else who's read it for some reason. Ishmael - recommended on here but doesn't seem well known in the UK. Everyone I've recommended to has enjoyed The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists - Proof that politics hasn't changed much in 100 years Jonathon Livingston Seagull - again well known on here, but not so much generally
……对我来说就是“从别人那里获取我们想要的东西”。> 去中心化的政府也是有可能的。听起来是个有趣的想法，但我不太清楚你指的是哪种形式的政府。> 你读过 Robert Tressell 写的《穿破裤子的慈善家》吗？[0] 他自己就是一名工人阶级，论证了社会主义的合理性，以及为什么资本主义这种旨在把一个阶级压在另一个阶级之下的制度是不可取的。我没读过，……
…stuff we want from other people" to me. > Decentralised government is also possible. Sounds like an interesting idea, but I'm not sure what form of government you're referring to. > Have you read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell?[0] He himself was a working class man making the case for Socialism, and why capitalism, a system which is designed to keep one class below the other, is not favourable. I haven't,…
我认为 Robert Tressell 在《穿破裤子的慈善家》中也提出了类似的观点，他在书中澄清了许多围绕社会主义的负面看法，并为其作出了极有说服力的辩护。一本很棒的书。
I believe similar points are made in Robert Tressell's 'The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists', in which he debunks a lot of the negativity surrounding socialism and makes very powerful arguments in favour of it. A wonderful book.
……交换价值高于使用价值，以及其中最大的推手：生产资料的私有制。推荐阅读马克思的《雇佣劳动与资本》；如果你想深入探究资本主义当年的真实面貌，以及它如今如何以剥削性的全球化形态继续存在，我目前正在读的 Robert Tressell 的《穿破裤子的慈善家》也很值得看。
…exchange value over use value and the biggest teller of them all, private ownership of the means of production. Recommended reading is Marx's 'Wage Labour and Capital', and I'm making my way through 'The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists' by Robert Tressell if you want to get to the nitty gritty of what Capitalism was like and how it still persists in its exploitative global form.