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三角洲部队

Delta force

Charlie A. Beckwith · 初版 1983 年

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“美国反恐部队与伊朗人质营救行动”——书封副标题。

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  • ……这本书,因为它极为深刻地刻画了人性与权力角力,而且放到今天依然切中要害。大家普遍觉得它太厚太长,但我发现它比《指环王》之类的要好读得多。Charlie Beckwith 上校写的《Delta Force》。觉得你们公司官僚主义严重、红线多?去看看越战后的美国陆军吧。这是一个人突破层层官僚障碍成就伟业的绝佳案例,它教会了我别再找……

    …book because of how much it captures about human nature and power plays and it is still relevant today. It has a reputation for length but I found it much more readable than, say, Lord of the Rings. Delta Force by Col. Charlie Beckwith. Think your company has red tape? Try the US Army post-Vietnam. It's a great example of someone moving through bureaucracy to achieve great things and taught me to stop making…

  • 如果你喜欢那本关于 Boyd 的书,尤其是五角大楼里如何把事情办成的那几部分,我强烈推荐 Charlie Beckwith 关于三角洲特种部队创建过程的那本书。放在今天,军方拥有一支顶级的反恐精英部队似乎是理所当然的,但 Beckwith 当年遇到了多大的阻力,真是令人震惊。书里还充满了大量搞笑的……

    If you liked the book about Boyd and specifically the parts about getting things done at the Pentagon, I highly recommend Charlie Beckwith's book about the founding of Delta Force. Nowadays, it seems obvious to have an incredibly elite counter terrorist team in the military but it's surprising how much push back Beckwith encountered. The book is also filled with tons of funny…

  • ……在“大机构”里干成事)对比接替他掌舵这支部队、对“Rogue Warrior”持有更“官方正统”看法的 Robert Gormley。或者,对比一下 Charlie Beckwith 上校关于创建 Delta Force 的精彩记述,与 Eric Haney 来自一线的第一手“基层”视角,以及 Pete Blaber 那本讲“直升机式”管理(在这里真是字面意义上的直升机)的优秀著作中关于部队演变的现代经验。你能学到……

    …done in "big org") vs Robert Gormley who followed him at the helm of the group and had a more "official" view of the "Rogue Warrior". Or contrast Col. Charlie Beckwith's exceptional account of creating Delta Force, with a first hand, "from the ground" view by Eric Haney, and modern lessons on how it has evolved from Pete Blaber's excellent book about "helicopter" management (in this case literally). You can learn…

  • ……尤其是如果他们提供大虾、橄榄烤牛肉和品质不错的生啤的话。我的演讲风格变得越来越放飞自我,我觉得讲到最后,我是在给一帮中年 CTO 们讲解星际争霸里的“大招流”(cheese),引用 Delta Force 创始人 Charlie Beckwith 上校的名言,然后再扯到无人驾驶拖拉机(我保证,所有这些都跟电商领域的 ML 息息相关)。他们爱死这个了,演讲还拿过几次“全场最佳”,不……

    …especially if they have giant prawns and olive-roast beef and a decent beer on tap. I made my talks increasingly ridiculous, I think by the end I was explaining Starcraft cheese to middle-aged CTOs and quoting Delta Force founder Col. Charlie Beckwith before following up with droid-driven tractors (all relevant to ML in e-commerce, I promise). They loved it, got voted "best talk of the conference" a couple of times, not…

  • 作为一个平民老百姓评判这些事总有点尴尬(我懂个啥啊)……话虽如此……情况其实比这还要惨——鹰爪行动(Eagle Claw)之所以失败,恰恰是因为三角洲部队依赖了常规军兵种的配合,使用的是“非特种”后勤支持。我们根本无从得知 Beckwith 的计划到底行不行,因为由于太多直升机……,根本没有任何队员能活着到达德黑兰。

    Always slightly embarrassing to comment on these things as a civilian (what do I know)... nevertheless... It was worse than that - the failure of Eagle Claw was due precisely to Delta Force's operating with the help of standard branches, and "not special" logistics. We never found out whether Beckwith's plan was any good as none of the men made it to Tehran, after too many of their helicopters…

  • > 那次讨论的结果是不要去记录步骤 7,因为把它文档化可能会强化一种刻板印象,即这东西该干嘛、为什么要这么做。在 Charlie Beckwith 关于 Delta Force 的书 [0] 里有这么一句话,他说道(大意):英国 SAS 从来不想白纸黑字写下来他们的职责是什么、他们接受过哪些任务的训练。为什么?因为他们不想被框死在……

    > the result of that discussion was to not document Step 7, because doing that might enforce the idea of what it should be for and why it should be done. In Charlie Beckwith's book about Delta Force [0] there is a line where he says (paraphrasing): "The SAS never wanted to write down what their role was and what tasks they were trained for. Why? Because they didn't want to get pigeon holed into…

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