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普塔夫的世界

World of Ptavvs

Larry Niven · 初版 1966 年

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“滚出我的脑海!”对于心灵感应者 Larry Greenberg 来说,没有任何准备能让他从容应对与外星生物的心灵交汇。

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  • 拉里·尼文(Larry Niven)的《普塔夫的世界》(World of Ptavvs)也是如此。写于我们现实中的冷战时期,故事背景却设在未来地球与小行星带(Belt)之间的冷战,最后的高潮部分简直被描述得纯粹如“海豚”(Dolphin)。而且我也完全同意关于《星潮汹涌》(Startide Rising)的看法。我第一次看到……

    Ditto Larry Niven's "World of Ptavvs". Written in our Cold War, set within a future Cold War between Earth and Belt and a final act that is actually described as pure Dolphin. And completely agree on Startide Rising. The first time I saw…

  • ……太空类书籍,但在 1970 年之后他身上发生了一些变化,比海因莱因那前后的遭遇还要糟糕。我觉得他和波奈尔(Pournelle)合写的那些书,完全比不上《中子星》(Neutron Star)、《普塔夫的世界》等等。他的经典灾难短篇《变幻的月亮》(Inconstant Moon)也是那个时期的作品。

    …Space books but something happened to him after 1970 that was worse than what happened to Heinlein around then. I don't think the books he wrote w/ Pournelle where anywhere near as good as Neutron Star, World of Ptavvs, etc. His great disaster short story Inconstant Moon dates from that period.

  • 我最喜欢的科幻 AI 大概是拉里·尼文《普塔夫的世界》里的“脑板”(brain board)。书中并没有展开细写,但我很喜欢它,因为那简直就是 1966 年版的 vibe coding GPT-3.5:> 他读到:“该给电池充电了:”后面跟着螺旋状象形文字,也就是标志……

    My favorite Sci-Fi AI is probably in Larry Niven's World of Ptavvs, the "brain board". It's not covered in much depth but I like it because it's basically vibe coding GPT3.5 from 1966: > He read, "Time to recharge battery:" followed by the spiral hieroglyph, the sign…

  • ……一个星际奴隶帝国在短短一代人时间里从新石器时代文化中崛起。这就是红女王效应(Red Queen effect)[1]。也许心灵感应是和对抗心灵感应的抗性同步演化的。[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Ptavvs [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen's_race

    …an intergalactic slaver empire from a neolithic culture in one generation. So red queen effect [1]. Maybe telepathy evolves in tandem with resistance to telepathy. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Ptavvs [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen's_race

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