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The Turing option
Harry Harrison · 初版 1992 年
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经典科幻作家Harry Harrison以AI的发现、遗失与重新发现令人着迷。对现代计算能力的预言古雅却相当精准。采用《24》剧集风格的叙事呈现。
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The Turing option
Harry Harrison · 初版 1992 年
经典科幻作家Harry Harrison以AI的发现、遗失与重新发现令人着迷。对现代计算能力的预言古雅却相当精准。采用《24》剧集风格的叙事呈现。
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……一本很有意思的小说,解释了不少《心智社会》(Society of Mind)里的想法,Minsky(合著者为 Harry Harrison)提出了“可以赶走粉蚧的微型机器人”的构想。书名叫《The Turing Option》(图灵选项)——非常好玩。
…an entertaining novel which explains not a few ideas from the 'Society of Mind', Minsky (coauthor Harry Harrison) introduces the idea of "microrobots that could chase mealybugs away". It's called 'The Turing Option' - lots of fun.
有很多科幻作品都涉及了这一点——值得注意的有:- 海因莱因的《严厉的月亮》(The Moon is a Harsh Mistress),已经有人提过了 - Harry Harrison 的《The Turing Option》(由 Marvin Minsky 作序):https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1807642 - Victor Milán 的《The Cybernetic Samurai》,其出彩之处在于里面的一个主要角色拥有前面提到的海因莱因……
There's a lot of science fiction which touches on this --- notable things: - Heinlein's _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ which has already been mentioned - Harry Harrison's _The Turing Option_ (with forward by Marvin Minsky): https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1807642 - Victor Milán's _The Cybernetic Samurai_ which is notable for a major character in it has the afore-mentioned Heinlein…
……这类素材可能行不通。我还会推荐:David Gerrold 的《When HARLIE Was One (Release 2.0)》、Peter Watts 的《The Freeze-Frame Revolution》、Charles Stross 的《Accelerando》、Harry Harrison 和 Marvin Minsky 的《The Turing Option》
…material is probably not going to work. I'd also suggest: When HARLIE Was One (Release 2.0) by David Gerrold The Freeze-Frame Revolution by Peter Watts Accelerando by Charles Stross The Turing Option by Harry Harrison and Marvin Minsky
……ner entrq ner sevtugravatyl fvzvyne gb gubfr qrfpevorq va Tynffubhfr - naq zber. —— 另外两本不属于“思想循序渐进”那一类的 AGI 书籍。第一本是 Harry Harrison 和 Marvin Minsky 的《The Turing Option》。https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1807642.The_Turing_Optio... 第二本是《When H.A.R.L.I.E. Was One: Release 2.0》https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/939176.When_H_A_R_L_I_E_...…
…ner entrq ner sevtugravatyl fvzvyne gb gubfr qrfpevorq va Tynffubhfr - naq zber. -- Two other AGI books that aren't part of the "this has ideas that progress from one to the other." The first is The Turing Option by Harry Harrison and Marvin Minsky. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1807642.The_Turing_Optio... The second is When H.A.R.L.I.E. Was One: Release 2.0 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/939176.When_H_A_R_L_I_E_...…
我记得高中时读过《心智社会》,在读完他的小说《The Turing Option》后被其中的思想深深震撼。这两本书我都好多年没想起来过了。回想起来,我现在从事机器学习工作可能一点也不奇怪。
I remember reading The Society of Mind in high school and being amazed by the ideas after reading his novel The Turing Option. I haven't thought about either in years. Looking back, maybe it's no surprise that I work in machine learning now.
……挺让人难过的。Minsky 和 McCarthy 在 80 和 90 年代都非常乐意回复邮件。我问过 Minsky 和 Harry Harrison 合写书的事,他说他对他们写的那本书(《The Turing Option》)的结局很失望;而 McCarthy 谈到了他关于长期信息本体论的想法,用的是他称为“Elephant”的符号体系或语言。McCarthy 是 USENET 上出了名的脾气暴躁的老头,对任何反核……都持反对立场,
…sad. Minsky and McCarthy were quite happy to respond to emails in the 80s and 90s. I asked Minsky about writing with Harry Harrison and he said he was frustrated at the ending of the book they did ("the Turing Option") and McCarthy talked about his ideas of long term information ontologies in a notation or language he called "Elephant" McCarthy was a notable USENET curmudgeon and would be oppositional to any anti-nuclear,…