《印度自治》封面

印度自治

Hind Swaraj

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi · 初版 2009 年

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  • ……说印度需要走一条不同于西方的自身发展道路,既非居高临下,也谈不上种族主义。事实上,这种思想正是甘地独立斗争的核心——去读读这位伟人的《印度自治》(Hind Swaraj)就明白了!这么做有太多理由。首先,我们没有可以在自肥的同时去肆意盘剥的殖民地——也就是“印度的印度”。退一步讲,就算有我们也不见得想这么干。其次我们也没有……

    …patronising or racist to say that India needs to follow a different model of development than the western one. In fact, that idea was central to the Gandhian independence struggle - just read the great man's Hind Swaraj! There are many reasons for doing so. For one, we don't have colonies we can screw over - i.e., India's India - while enriching ourselves. Assuming we would want to do that at all. We also don't have…

  • 写得挺用心。不过我怀疑现实中的甘地未必像这个角色。在《印度自治》里,甘地甚至主张取缔铁路和疫苗……

    Good effort. I doubt if real life Gandhi would be like this character though. In Hind Swaraj, Gandhi talks about banning railways and vaccines..

  • 这篇内容让我想起了甘地的随笔《印度自治》,真是绝了。他本质上是相当反感技术驱动的变革的。他反对:- 机械替代手工艺(手艺失传,贫困随之而来)- 节省人力的机器替代人工(工人沦为……

    This piece reminded me, of all things, of Gandhi's essay "Hind Swaraj." He was pretty anti-technological-driven change. He was anti: - Machinery replacing handicraft (skill disappeared and poverty followed) - Labor-saving machines replacing human workers (workers became…

  • ……我理解我刚才提到的那些东西在 1908 年甘地写那篇随笔时还不存在,但谁知道现代 AI 又会带来什么我们现在无法想象的进步呢?https://www.mkgandhi.org/ebks/hind_swaraj.pdf 这是甘地那本书的 PDF。在“解释说明”(A Word of Explanation)一节中,你会发现甘地竟然表示乐见医院和铁路自然消亡。

    …understand the things I mentioned just now weren’t around in 1908 when Gandhi wrote that essay but who knows what advancements modern AI could bring that we can’t imagine now? https://www.mkgandhi.org/ebks/hind_swaraj.pdf This is a PDF of that Gandhi book. Under the “A Word of Explanation” you find Gandhi saying he would welcome the natural destruction of hospitals and railways.

  • 我不同意他的论点是颠扑不破的。https://www.mkgandhi.org/ebks/hind_swaraj.pdf 我在这个帖子的另一条评论里说了更多,不过这是他那本书的 PDF。甘地在“解释说明”部分说,他乐见医院自然毁灭。这怎么就……

    I disagree his arguments are timeless. https://www.mkgandhi.org/ebks/hind_swaraj.pdf I posted more in another comment on this thread but here’s a PDF of his book. Gandhi says in the “A Word of Explanation” section that he would welcome the natural destruction of hospitals. How is…

  • ……‘如果我被免去《每日邮报》主编一职,就会挨饿’,或者大意如此。”[0] 读到这里,甘地“立即将其翻译成古吉拉特语,并以此为基础写出了他的《印度自治》一书,这是他自己首次构想出的、专门针对本国问题的‘印度式’解决方案。因此你完全可以说(且并非无稽之谈),印度的独立,或者至少是它实现的……

    …starved if I am excluded from the Editorship of the Daily Mail," or words to that effect."[0] On reading this, Gandhi "immediately translated it into Gujarati, and on the basis of it he wrote his book Hind Swaraj, his own first formulation of a specifically "Indian" solution to his country’s problems. Thus you might argue, not quite absurdly, that India owed its independence, or at least the manner in which it…

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