There's this book by Peter DeGrace and Leslie Hulet Stahl called Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions. It describes all of these problems and others. It presents a number of very practical and proven solutions. The book was published 28 years ago, in 1990. We use words like science and engineering in…
……做架构的方法是 Betty Vandenbosch 写的《Designing Solutions for Your Business Problems: A Structured Process for Managers and Consultants》。对我影响最大的书一直都是 Peter DeGrace 和 Leslie Hulet Stahl 写的《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions》。看完之后我拍烂了脑门、悔青了肠子。它在今天甚至比 1990 年写出来时还要受用。《人件》（Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams）……
…approach to architecture is "Designing Solutions for Your Business Problems: A Structured Process for Managers and Consultants" by Betty Vandenbosch. The one that made the biggest impact on me in ever is "Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions" by Peter DeGrace and Leslie Hulet Stahl. Lots of forehead slapping and kicking myself ensued. Even more applicable today than it was in 1990 when written. "Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams"…
……各种事物的命名，像 scrum 和 XP 这种敏捷方法论里其实没有任何新东西。它们早在 80 年代初就有了。如果你对流程感兴趣，不妨找一本（名字贼拗口）——Peter DeGrace 和 Leslie Hulet Stahl 写的《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions: A Catolog of Modern Engineering Paradigms: A Catalogue of Modern Software Engineering Paradigms》（Yourdon Press Computing 出版）。http://www.amazon.com/dp/013590126X。
…names for things there is nothing new in agile methodologies like scrum and XP. They've been around since the early '80s. If you're into process, try and get your hands on a copy of (it's a mouthful) - Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions: A Catolog of Modern Engineering Paradigms: A Catalogue of Modern Software Engineering Paradigms (Yourdon Press Computing), by Peter DeGrace and Leslie Hulet Stahl. http://www.amazon.com/dp/013590126X.
……建议了。我辞职了。这两种情况让人沮丧的地方在于，工程管理其实早就有解了。早在 80 年代就已经被解决了。如今任何试图引入我从《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions》、《人件》（Peopleware）或《人月神话》（Mythical Man Month）这类书里学来的原则的尝试，都会被拒掉，因为现在的绝大多数组织都有自己既定的做事方式，被某些管理者当成了自己的个人领地。任何想要偏离……的尝试
…suggested. I resigned. The frustration in both cases was that engineering management has been solved. It's been solved in the 80's. Any attempt these days to introduce principles I learnt from books like Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions, Peopleware or Mythical Man Month got rejected, because most organisations these days have a chosen way of doing things that some manager thinks of as a personal fiefdom. Any attempt to stray from the…
…asked for requirements and were told to figure it out. So we did. We delivered a first version in three months, and a final product in 8. Afterwards he told us about a paper he'd found[1] after reading Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions[2]. That paper describes what SCRUM was before it got butchered into what it is today. In 1986, SCRUM consisted of choosing an elite team of experts, throwing them into a room, and telling them to solve…
我不知道它算不算“经典”，不过在看了 HN 上另一个讨论优秀软件开发书籍的帖子后，我最近入手了一本《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions: A Catalogue of Modern Software Engineering Paradigms》[0]。不过我还没翻开看。[0] https://books.google.com/books/about/Wicked_Problems_Righteo...
I don't know if it's a "classic", but I recently picked up a copy of Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions: A Catalogue of Modern Software Engineering Paradigms [0] after reading through another HN thread on good software dev books. I haven't cracked it open yet though. [0] https://books.google.com/books/about/Wicked_Problems_Righteo...
Peter DeGrace 和 Leslie Hulet Stahl 写过一本书叫《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions》。它描述了所有这些问题以及其他问题，并给出了一批非常实用且久经考验的解决方案。这本书是 28 年前（1990 年）出版的。我们在……中使用像“科学”和“工程”这样的词
There's this book by Peter DeGrace and Leslie Hulet Stahl called Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions. It describes all of these problems and others. It presents a number of very practical and proven solutions. The book was published 28 years ago, in 1990. We use words like science and engineering in…
……做架构的方法是 Betty Vandenbosch 写的《Designing Solutions for Your Business Problems: A Structured Process for Managers and Consultants》。对我影响最大的书一直都是 Peter DeGrace 和 Leslie Hulet Stahl 写的《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions》。看完之后我拍烂了脑门、悔青了肠子。它在今天甚至比 1990 年写出来时还要受用。《人件》（Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams）……
…approach to architecture is "Designing Solutions for Your Business Problems: A Structured Process for Managers and Consultants" by Betty Vandenbosch. The one that made the biggest impact on me in ever is "Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions" by Peter DeGrace and Leslie Hulet Stahl. Lots of forehead slapping and kicking myself ensued. Even more applicable today than it was in 1990 when written. "Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams"…
……各种事物的命名，像 scrum 和 XP 这种敏捷方法论里其实没有任何新东西。它们早在 80 年代初就有了。如果你对流程感兴趣，不妨找一本（名字贼拗口）——Peter DeGrace 和 Leslie Hulet Stahl 写的《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions: A Catolog of Modern Engineering Paradigms: A Catalogue of Modern Software Engineering Paradigms》（Yourdon Press Computing 出版）。http://www.amazon.com/dp/013590126X。
…names for things there is nothing new in agile methodologies like scrum and XP. They've been around since the early '80s. If you're into process, try and get your hands on a copy of (it's a mouthful) - Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions: A Catolog of Modern Engineering Paradigms: A Catalogue of Modern Software Engineering Paradigms (Yourdon Press Computing), by Peter DeGrace and Leslie Hulet Stahl. http://www.amazon.com/dp/013590126X.
……建议了。我辞职了。这两种情况让人沮丧的地方在于，工程管理其实早就有解了。早在 80 年代就已经被解决了。如今任何试图引入我从《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions》、《人件》（Peopleware）或《人月神话》（Mythical Man Month）这类书里学来的原则的尝试，都会被拒掉，因为现在的绝大多数组织都有自己既定的做事方式，被某些管理者当成了自己的个人领地。任何想要偏离……的尝试
…suggested. I resigned. The frustration in both cases was that engineering management has been solved. It's been solved in the 80's. Any attempt these days to introduce principles I learnt from books like Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions, Peopleware or Mythical Man Month got rejected, because most organisations these days have a chosen way of doing things that some manager thinks of as a personal fiefdom. Any attempt to stray from the…
……要需求，结果被告知自己想办法搞清楚。于是我们就自己搞了。我们在三个月内交付了第一版，八个月交付了最终产品。后来他告诉我们，他在读完《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions》[2] 后找到了一篇论文[1]。那篇论文描述了 SCRUM 在被大卸八块变成今天这副鬼样子之前到底是什么样的。在 1986 年，SCRUM 还是挑选一支精英专家团队，把他们关进一个屋子里，然后让他们去解决……
…asked for requirements and were told to figure it out. So we did. We delivered a first version in three months, and a final product in 8. Afterwards he told us about a paper he'd found[1] after reading Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions[2]. That paper describes what SCRUM was before it got butchered into what it is today. In 1986, SCRUM consisted of choosing an elite team of experts, throwing them into a room, and telling them to solve…
我不知道它算不算“经典”，不过在看了 HN 上另一个讨论优秀软件开发书籍的帖子后，我最近入手了一本《Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions: A Catalogue of Modern Software Engineering Paradigms》[0]。不过我还没翻开看。[0] https://books.google.com/books/about/Wicked_Problems_Righteo...
I don't know if it's a "classic", but I recently picked up a copy of Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions: A Catalogue of Modern Software Engineering Paradigms [0] after reading through another HN thread on good software dev books. I haven't cracked it open yet though. [0] https://books.google.com/books/about/Wicked_Problems_Righteo...