《我们差点失去底特律》封面

我们差点失去底特律

We almost lost Detroit

John Grant Fuller · 初版 1975 年

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  • ……流程本身也会引入更多的变异或故障模式。举个我刚看到的例子:1966年发生在底特律附近的费米1号(Fermi 1)核反应堆熔毁事故,这起事件催生了一本名为《底特律险遭厄运》(We Almost Lost Detroit)的书,以及 Gil Scott-Heron 的同名歌曲。据《底特律自由新闻报》(Detroit Free……)报道,熔毁的原因被确定是“反应堆中作为安全措施安装的一块锆金属板”……

    …processes themselves inject further variation or failure modes. For an example I only just ran across, the Fermi 1 nuclear reactor meltdown incident near Detroit in 1966, and event which gave rise to a book We Almost Lost Detroit, and a Gil Scott-Heron song of the same title. The cause of the meltdown was determined to be "zirconium metal plate that was installed in the reactor as a safety measure", according to a Detroit Free…

  • “安全、清洁、便宜到不用装电表” 还有吗?> 《底特律险遭厄运》(We Almost Lost Detroit)- 维基百科 > 这是 John G. Fuller 于 1975 年由《读者文摘》出版的一本书,[1] 介绍了美国第一座商业增殖反应堆费米1号的历史,重点讲述了 1966 年的那次局部核熔毁。ISBN 0883490706

    "Safe, clean, too cheap to meter" More? > We Almost Lost Detroit"- Wikipedia > a 1975 Reader's Digest book by John G. Fuller,[1] presents a history of Fermi 1, America's first commercial breeder reactor, with emphasis on the 1966 partial nuclear meltdown. ISBN 0883490706

  • ……这事儿还没彻底定论,核能依然有一席之地。关于第四代反应堆,另一个鲜为人知的故事是液态金属快中子增殖反应堆(LMFBR),我觉得它一直被抹黑了,像《底特律险遭厄运》(We Almost Lost Detroit)这类书会让你觉得这是一项危险且失败的技术。诚然,LMFBR 的研发项目确实遇到过一些问题,但也有成功案例,美国的 EBR II 和 FFTF 就一直运行得十分顺畅……

    …story is not there 100% yet and nuclear is still in the running. Another untold story about Gen 4 is that of the liquid metal fast breeder reactor (LMFBR) which I'd say has been maligned, books like We Almost Lost Detroit would make you think it is a dangerous and failed technology. Granted, LMFBR development projects have had some problems, but also some successes, EBR II and the FFTF ran without a hitch in the U.S.…

  • ……燃料局部熔毁。他们说没有辐射泄露,但官方说法存在争议。有人针对这次事故写了一本书(后来还有一首歌)。http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Almost_Lost_Detroit

    …partial fuel melt down. They said no radiation was leaked but there was dispute about the official account. There was a book (and later a song) written about the accident. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Almost_Lost_Detroit

  • ……Natrium 的方案。燃料熔毁可不是停留在理论上的问题——在美国的两个快堆上切切实实发生过(EBR-1 和费米1号,后者就是那本名字起得很夸张的书《底特律险遭厄运》里写到的反应堆)。当时没有发生爆炸,但燃料居然熔化了,这本身就非常令人不安。美国核管理委员会(NRC)肯定会坚决要求对局部燃料熔毁事故的后果进行深入分析。

    …Natrium's approach. Melting of fuel is not a theoretical problem -- it has actually happened at two fast reactors in the US (EBR-1 and Fermi-1, the latter the reactor in the hyperbolically titled book "We Almost Lost Detroit"). No explosions occurred, but it's very troubling the fuel melted at all. The NRC will surely insist on analysis of the consequences of partial fuel melting accidents.

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