关于中央计划，有一些可能令人感兴趣的新路径，比如 W. Paul Cockshott 在《Towards a New Socialism》中提出的那些方案。我不认为中央计划必然是什么坏事，而且无论在共产主义内部还是外部，显然都有足够多的替代方案。很多像我这样的共产主义者……
There are various new approaches to central planning that may be of interest, such as those in Towards a New Socialism by W. Paul Cockshott. I don't think central planning is necessarily something bad, and there are certainly sufficient alternatives from both inside and outside Communism. Many Communists such as myself…
如果你对赛博协同工程（Project Cybersyn）感兴趣，也许你该去深入读读 Paul Cockshott 的提议和著作《Towards a New Socialism》，他在书里详细阐述了为什么以及如何将计算机用于经济计划。Paul Cockshott 拥有 CS 博士学位和经济学学士学位。真的很棒的内容，我相信它会塑造经济学……
If you're interested in Project Cybersyn, maybe you should read into Paul Cockshott's proposals and book: Towards a New Socialism, were he explains exactly why and how computers should be used in the planning of the economy. Paul Cockshott has a PhD in CS and a BA in Economics. Really great stuff, I'm sure it'll shape the economics…
>但这想法是经济学家早就讨论烂了的东西：去搜搜“社会主义计算大论战”（Socialist Calculation Debate）吧
我可完全不觉得它被“讨论烂了”；你读过 Cockshott 的《Towards a New Socialism》吗？他借由计算机化中央计划的设想，试图解释为什么这个问题根本就不是个问题。
>but this idea is something that economists have already discussed to death: google "the Socialist Calculation Debate" I wouldn't say it's been "discussed to death" at all; have you read Cockshott's "Towards a New Socialism"? He tries to explain why the problem isn't really a problem at all, with his idea of computerised central planning.
……完全不依赖农业人口的项目；他们认为教育应该量身定制以契合当前的生产方式；关于这方面的观点，你可能会对 Paul W. Cockshott 的《Towards a New Socialism》感兴趣，他在书中阐述了共产主义初级阶段下的社会可能是什么样子、可以采取什么方法达成，以及经济可以如何组织。共产主义根本就不是关于务农的……
…projects which rely not at all on agrarian population; they believe that education should be tailored to fit the current mode of production; for a view on this, you may be interested in Paul W. Cockshott's Towards a New Socialism in which he elaborates what a society might look like under lower-stage Communism and what methods can be used to get there, and how an economy might be organised. Communism is nothing about farming…
……公社，在革命时期的加泰罗尼亚没有，据我所知桑卡拉统治下的布基纳法索也没有。如果你想了解社会主义经济的现代进展，我推荐去看看 Paul W. Cockshott 的《Towards a New Socialism》；连调研都没做就一概否定，这透着一股懒惰，甚至是不诚实。但是在你显然没做必要研究之前，请不要对社会主义到底是什么妄下定论。……
…Commune nor in revolutionary Catalonia, nor to my knowledge Burkina Faso under Sankara. If you want to read up on the modern advances in Socialist economy, I'd recommend looking at Paul W. Cockshott's Towards a New Socialism; to dismiss it without doing this research reeks of laziness or worse dishonesty. But please don't make assumptions about what Socialism is about while you have clearly failed to do the required research.…
去看看前面提到的 Cockshott 和 Cotrell 写的《Towards a New Socialism》。Cockshott 本人是计算机科学家，他提议基于求解劳动投入的线性方程组来规划经济。
Check out "Towards a New Socialism", by the aforementioned Cockshott and Cotrell. Cockshott himself is a computer scientist and proposes planning the economy based on solving a linear system of labour inputs.
关于中央计划，有一些可能令人感兴趣的新路径，比如 W. Paul Cockshott 在《Towards a New Socialism》中提出的那些方案。我不认为中央计划必然是什么坏事，而且无论在共产主义内部还是外部，显然都有足够多的替代方案。很多像我这样的共产主义者……
There are various new approaches to central planning that may be of interest, such as those in Towards a New Socialism by W. Paul Cockshott. I don't think central planning is necessarily something bad, and there are certainly sufficient alternatives from both inside and outside Communism. Many Communists such as myself…
如果你对赛博协同工程（Project Cybersyn）感兴趣，也许你该去深入读读 Paul Cockshott 的提议和著作《Towards a New Socialism》，他在书里详细阐述了为什么以及如何将计算机用于经济计划。Paul Cockshott 拥有 CS 博士学位和经济学学士学位。真的很棒的内容，我相信它会塑造经济学……
If you're interested in Project Cybersyn, maybe you should read into Paul Cockshott's proposals and book: Towards a New Socialism, were he explains exactly why and how computers should be used in the planning of the economy. Paul Cockshott has a PhD in CS and a BA in Economics. Really great stuff, I'm sure it'll shape the economics…
>但这想法是经济学家早就讨论烂了的东西：去搜搜“社会主义计算大论战”（Socialist Calculation Debate）吧 我可完全不觉得它被“讨论烂了”；你读过 Cockshott 的《Towards a New Socialism》吗？他借由计算机化中央计划的设想，试图解释为什么这个问题根本就不是个问题。
>but this idea is something that economists have already discussed to death: google "the Socialist Calculation Debate" I wouldn't say it's been "discussed to death" at all; have you read Cockshott's "Towards a New Socialism"? He tries to explain why the problem isn't really a problem at all, with his idea of computerised central planning.
……完全不依赖农业人口的项目；他们认为教育应该量身定制以契合当前的生产方式；关于这方面的观点，你可能会对 Paul W. Cockshott 的《Towards a New Socialism》感兴趣，他在书中阐述了共产主义初级阶段下的社会可能是什么样子、可以采取什么方法达成，以及经济可以如何组织。共产主义根本就不是关于务农的……
…projects which rely not at all on agrarian population; they believe that education should be tailored to fit the current mode of production; for a view on this, you may be interested in Paul W. Cockshott's Towards a New Socialism in which he elaborates what a society might look like under lower-stage Communism and what methods can be used to get there, and how an economy might be organised. Communism is nothing about farming…
……公社，在革命时期的加泰罗尼亚没有，据我所知桑卡拉统治下的布基纳法索也没有。如果你想了解社会主义经济的现代进展，我推荐去看看 Paul W. Cockshott 的《Towards a New Socialism》；连调研都没做就一概否定，这透着一股懒惰，甚至是不诚实。但是在你显然没做必要研究之前，请不要对社会主义到底是什么妄下定论。……
…Commune nor in revolutionary Catalonia, nor to my knowledge Burkina Faso under Sankara. If you want to read up on the modern advances in Socialist economy, I'd recommend looking at Paul W. Cockshott's Towards a New Socialism; to dismiss it without doing this research reeks of laziness or worse dishonesty. But please don't make assumptions about what Socialism is about while you have clearly failed to do the required research.…
去看看前面提到的 Cockshott 和 Cotrell 写的《Towards a New Socialism》。Cockshott 本人是计算机科学家，他提议基于求解劳动投入的线性方程组来规划经济。
Check out "Towards a New Socialism", by the aforementioned Cockshott and Cotrell. Cockshott himself is a computer scientist and proposes planning the economy based on solving a linear system of labour inputs.