……比如血汗工厂。此外，为了抚养那些不工作的人，人们就必须纳税，而这与自由权、平等权，甚至存疑的产权都难以共存。想看点有意思的，可以读读蒲鲁东（Proudhon）的《什么是所有权？》（What is Property?）。这里有个有趣的视频：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNxSHcQqiMc
…such as sweatshops. Furthermore in order to support those who do not work, one must pay taxes, which cannot well co-exist with the rights of freedom, equality and dubiously property. Read Proudhon's "What is Property?" for something interesting. Here's an interesting video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNxSHcQqiMc
…property, the concept of possession, and the abolishment of the former should be discussed more, though it's strange that it's often taken for a given in political discussions, despite the work of Proudhon (What is Property?) and further by Bakunin, Kropotkin and Marx (who was very much in admiration of and inspired by Proudhon's book). If anyone is interested in reading the book, which I can only describe as captivating…
……即便不是私有财产所有者。我认为这两者是同一种所有权体系的产物，建立在错误的前提之上，并与正义和平等的原则相抵触（蒲鲁东的《什么是所有权？》在这个话题上很有趣，克鲁泡特金的《面包与自由》（The Conquest of Bread）以及马克思和恩格斯的许多著作也是如此。）>资本主义捍卫了每个人不受武力威胁被迫沦为奴隶的权利。……
…if not private property owners. I see these as one and the same organ of proprietorship, staking claim based in false premises and contradicting with the principles of justice and equality (Proudhon's 'What is Property?' is interesting on this topic, as well as Kropotkin's 'The Conquest of Bread' and many of Marx and Engels' works.) >Capitalism defends everyone's right not to be forced into slavery by threat of force.…
…way better fitted here. Of course, he's another non-authority thinker but with a quite different perspective and way to think the world, the society and men. Take some of your time at gutenberg.org: - What is Property? by P.-J. Proudhon http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/360 - System of Economical Contradictions; or, the Philosophy of Misery by P.-J. Proudhon http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/444
>Property rights are the foundation of civil society. For the exact opposite view of property, that it is in fact the sign of barabrism and the law of the jungle, read Proudhon's "What is Property?".
……比如血汗工厂。此外，为了抚养那些不工作的人，人们就必须纳税，而这与自由权、平等权，甚至存疑的产权都难以共存。想看点有意思的，可以读读蒲鲁东（Proudhon）的《什么是所有权？》（What is Property?）。这里有个有趣的视频：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNxSHcQqiMc
…such as sweatshops. Furthermore in order to support those who do not work, one must pay taxes, which cannot well co-exist with the rights of freedom, equality and dubiously property. Read Proudhon's "What is Property?" for something interesting. Here's an interesting video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNxSHcQqiMc
蒲鲁东的《什么是所有权？》很值得一读。私有财产就是对社会的盗窃。
Proudhon's "What is Property?" is a good read on this. Private property is theft from society.
……财产、占有的概念，以及废除前者的话题应该得到更多讨论，奇怪的是在政治讨论中这常常被当成既定前提，尽管有蒲鲁东的著作（《什么是所有权？》），以及后来巴枯宁、克鲁泡特金和马克思（他非常钦佩蒲鲁东的这本书并深受启发）的发展。如果有人有兴趣读读这本书，我只能用扣人心弦来形容……
…property, the concept of possession, and the abolishment of the former should be discussed more, though it's strange that it's often taken for a given in political discussions, despite the work of Proudhon (What is Property?) and further by Bakunin, Kropotkin and Marx (who was very much in admiration of and inspired by Proudhon's book). If anyone is interested in reading the book, which I can only describe as captivating…
……即便不是私有财产所有者。我认为这两者是同一种所有权体系的产物，建立在错误的前提之上，并与正义和平等的原则相抵触（蒲鲁东的《什么是所有权？》在这个话题上很有趣，克鲁泡特金的《面包与自由》（The Conquest of Bread）以及马克思和恩格斯的许多著作也是如此。）>资本主义捍卫了每个人不受武力威胁被迫沦为奴隶的权利。……
…if not private property owners. I see these as one and the same organ of proprietorship, staking claim based in false premises and contradicting with the principles of justice and equality (Proudhon's 'What is Property?' is interesting on this topic, as well as Kropotkin's 'The Conquest of Bread' and many of Marx and Engels' works.) >Capitalism defends everyone's right not to be forced into slavery by threat of force.…
……在这里更合适得多。当然，他是另一位非权威的思想家，但对世界、社会和人有着截然不同的视角和思考方式。不妨去 gutenberg.org 花点时间看看：- 蒲鲁东的《什么是所有权？》 http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/360 - 蒲鲁东的《经济矛盾的体系，或贫困的哲学》 http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/444
…way better fitted here. Of course, he's another non-authority thinker but with a quite different perspective and way to think the world, the society and men. Take some of your time at gutenberg.org: - What is Property? by P.-J. Proudhon http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/360 - System of Economical Contradictions; or, the Philosophy of Misery by P.-J. Proudhon http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/444
>产权是公民社会的基石。如果想看关于财产完全相反的观点——即它实际上是野蛮和弱肉强食的丛林法则的象征，可以去读蒲鲁东的《什么是所有权？》。
>Property rights are the foundation of civil society. For the exact opposite view of property, that it is in fact the sign of barabrism and the law of the jungle, read Proudhon's "What is Property?".