…通过探索自身所处的环境，在我看来这人绝对是个大赢家——如今能达到这种境界的人真的不多了。去看看 Robert Kegan 的成人发展模型《The Evolving Self》吧——他的维基百科页面就有一个挺不错的总结。大多数人都处于皇权期（imperial）或人际期（interpersonal），而很少有人能达到制度期（institutional）或个体间期（interindividual）（顺便说一句，我个人更喜欢 Loevinger 的标签）。…
…through the exploration of one's environment makes that person a massive winner in my book -- we just don't get there with many people these days. Check out Robert Kegan's model of adult development The Evolving Self -- his Wikipedia page has a decent summary. Most people are in the imperial or interpersonal stage, while few are in the institutional or interindividual stages (fwiw, I like Loevinger's labels better).…
我随口想到的：（不太关于职业，更多关于个人成长）1. 詹姆斯·卡斯的《有限与无限的游戏》（Finite & Infinite Games）2. 契克森米哈赖的《心流》（Flow）3. 罗伯特·凯根的《 evolving self》（The evolving self）4. 维克多·弗兰克的《活出意义来》（Man's search for meaning）5. 罗欣顿·米斯特里的《平衡》（A fine balance）（小说）6. 罗伯特·波西格的《莱拉》（Lila）（小说）
Off the top of my head: (less career and more personal development) 1. Finite & Infinite Games, by James Carse 2. Flow, by Czikszentmihalyi 3. The evolving self, by Robert Kegan 4. Man's search for meaning, by Victor Frankl 5. A fine balance, by Rohinton Mistry (fiction) 6. Lila, by Robert Pirsig (fiction)
…https://meaningness.com/metablog/stem-fluidity-bridge 顺便补充：来自这个帖子关联的那篇（斯坦福）文章……> Kegan（Robert）于 1982 年在他的著作《The Evolving Self》中提出了自我进化理论。在他后来的著作《In over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life》（1994）中，他给出了该理论的修订版，并进一步讨论了他的研究对社会的意义。在那些…
…https://meaningness.com/metablog/stem-fluidity-bridge ETA: From the (Stanford) article this thread is attached to... > Kegan (Robert) introduced his theory of self-evolution in 1982 in his book, The Evolving Self. In his later book, In over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life (1994), he presented a revised version of his theory and further discussion of the implications of his work for society. Of those…
…"up-front investment"). Maybe look in Kegan's wikipedia to have a better overview of what they mean by self-authoring mind (stage four in the big table) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan#The_Evolving_Self
> 我知道围绕拓展语言极限有一些听起来很高大上的论点，但在我看来似乎都没什么道理。你读过 Robert Kegan 的《The Evolving Self》吗？前段时间在 HN 上还挺火的。Robert Kegan 确实在拓展语言的极限，而且他是有原因的：他引入了一些诸如“嵌入式文化”（culture of embeddedness）之类的概念，这些概念你根本无法在…中定义。
> I know there are some fancy arguments around stretching limits of language, but none of them seemed all that sensible to me. Did you read Robert Kegan "The Evolving Self"? It was pretty popular at HN some time ago. Robert Kegan stretching limits of language and he's got a reason: he introduces some notions like "culture of embeddedness" that you just can't define in a…
…opinions by social osmosis can still be intellectually honest if they land in the right sort of community, but they fall apart under social pressure. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan#The_Evolving_Self
…通过探索自身所处的环境，在我看来这人绝对是个大赢家——如今能达到这种境界的人真的不多了。去看看 Robert Kegan 的成人发展模型《The Evolving Self》吧——他的维基百科页面就有一个挺不错的总结。大多数人都处于皇权期（imperial）或人际期（interpersonal），而很少有人能达到制度期（institutional）或个体间期（interindividual）（顺便说一句，我个人更喜欢 Loevinger 的标签）。…
…through the exploration of one's environment makes that person a massive winner in my book -- we just don't get there with many people these days. Check out Robert Kegan's model of adult development The Evolving Self -- his Wikipedia page has a decent summary. Most people are in the imperial or interpersonal stage, while few are in the institutional or interindividual stages (fwiw, I like Loevinger's labels better).…
我随口想到的：（不太关于职业，更多关于个人成长）1. 詹姆斯·卡斯的《有限与无限的游戏》（Finite & Infinite Games）2. 契克森米哈赖的《心流》（Flow）3. 罗伯特·凯根的《 evolving self》（The evolving self）4. 维克多·弗兰克的《活出意义来》（Man's search for meaning）5. 罗欣顿·米斯特里的《平衡》（A fine balance）（小说）6. 罗伯特·波西格的《莱拉》（Lila）（小说）
Off the top of my head: (less career and more personal development) 1. Finite & Infinite Games, by James Carse 2. Flow, by Czikszentmihalyi 3. The evolving self, by Robert Kegan 4. Man's search for meaning, by Victor Frankl 5. A fine balance, by Rohinton Mistry (fiction) 6. Lila, by Robert Pirsig (fiction)
…https://meaningness.com/metablog/stem-fluidity-bridge 顺便补充：来自这个帖子关联的那篇（斯坦福）文章……> Kegan（Robert）于 1982 年在他的著作《The Evolving Self》中提出了自我进化理论。在他后来的著作《In over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life》（1994）中，他给出了该理论的修订版，并进一步讨论了他的研究对社会的意义。在那些…
…https://meaningness.com/metablog/stem-fluidity-bridge ETA: From the (Stanford) article this thread is attached to... > Kegan (Robert) introduced his theory of self-evolution in 1982 in his book, The Evolving Self. In his later book, In over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life (1994), he presented a revised version of his theory and further discussion of the implications of his work for society. Of those…
……“前期投入”）。也许可以看看 Kegan 的维基百科页面，更好地了解他们所说的自我创作心智（大表格中的第四阶段）是什么意思 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan#The_Evolving_Self
…"up-front investment"). Maybe look in Kegan's wikipedia to have a better overview of what they mean by self-authoring mind (stage four in the big table) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan#The_Evolving_Self
> 我知道围绕拓展语言极限有一些听起来很高大上的论点，但在我看来似乎都没什么道理。你读过 Robert Kegan 的《The Evolving Self》吗？前段时间在 HN 上还挺火的。Robert Kegan 确实在拓展语言的极限，而且他是有原因的：他引入了一些诸如“嵌入式文化”（culture of embeddedness）之类的概念，这些概念你根本无法在…中定义。
> I know there are some fancy arguments around stretching limits of language, but none of them seemed all that sensible to me. Did you read Robert Kegan "The Evolving Self"? It was pretty popular at HN some time ago. Robert Kegan stretching limits of language and he's got a reason: he introduces some notions like "culture of embeddedness" that you just can't define in a…
……通过社会渗透获得的观点，如果落在合适的那类社群里，仍然可以在智识上保持诚实，但在社会压力下就会崩塌。[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan#The_Evolving_Self
…opinions by social osmosis can still be intellectually honest if they land in the right sort of community, but they fall apart under social pressure. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan#The_Evolving_Self