我挺喜欢这个看似很蠢的想法，不如来 3 本不一样的书：埃里克·威廉姆斯的《Capitalism and Slavery》——看看真正的邪恶长什么样；伊本·图斐利的《活着，在生命的尽头》（Hayy ibn Yaqdhan）——美好生活的“理论”；玛雅·安吉洛的《I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings》——美好生活的“实践”。《I Know Why…
I like this dumb idea, how about 3 different books Capitalism and Slavery by Eric Williams - what evil really looks like Hayy ibn Yaqdhan by Ibn Tufail - the "theory" of a good life I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou - the "practice" of a good life I Know Why…
Classic text from 1944 on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism_and_Slavery > The book, besides dealing with a passage of economic history, was furthermore a frontal attack on the idea that moral and humanitarian motives were key in the victory of British abolitionism. It was…
>为什么你觉得国家是因为奴隶制才变得更富裕的？关于这个主题有很多书，我觉得《Capitalism and Slavery》讲得很透彻，而且史料记录非常详实。奴隶制是南部经济的支柱组成部分，绝不仅仅是少数几个奴隶主发家致富的问题；它已经根植于整个生活方式之中……
>Why do you think the country is richer because of slavery? There are plenty of books on this subject, I think "Capitalism and Slavery" goes into this well, but it's pretty well documented. Slavery was a huge part of the southern economy, it wasn't just a few individual slaveholders getting rich; it was embedded in the very way of life…
……确实很复杂，但你肯定会认同三角贸易对于那些最终引领工业革命的经济体来说至关重要。虽然我没读过，但我认为埃里克·威廉姆斯的《Capitalism and Slavery》是一部很有影响力的作品，以极力论证书名中两者（资本主义与奴隶制）之间的联系而闻名（当然并不是所有人都认同他的观点）。
…difficult, but surely you'd agree that the Triangle Trade was important to the economies that actually ended up leading the Industrial Revolution. Although I have not read it, I think Eric Williams's Capitalism and Slavery is an influential work well known for forcefully arguing for a link between the eponymous phenomena (of course not everyone agrees with its claims).
……“争议极其激烈”，你却说是“错得离谱”。你到底看不看你自己贴的链接？“聚焦英国的一个重要原因，无疑是埃里克·威廉姆斯在 1944 年首次出版并被广泛引用的名著《Capitalism and slavery》。”人家专门写了整整一本书来论证它！这课题就是有这么深。我记得在 YouTube 上看过一个 1 小时的讲座，里面那位教授论证跨大西洋……
…"fiercely debated", you say "wildly incorrect". Do you actually read the sources you link to? "One important reason for this focus on Britain was no doubt the publication of Eric Williams’ much-cited book Capitalism and slavery, first published in 1944." Someone actually wrote a whole book about it! That's how deep the subject is. I remember watching a 1 hour lecture on you tube, where this professor argued that the trans-Atlantic…
…eventually, at the time of the civil war, a net negative, even not accounting for costs of the war, and that afterwards the economy grew faster without that deadweight. (The book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism_and_Slavery covers this.) I'm sure there were people arguing at the time of abolition that it was a necessary evil too though: > Defenders of slavery argued that the sudden end to the slave economy would have had…
我挺喜欢这个看似很蠢的想法，不如来 3 本不一样的书：埃里克·威廉姆斯的《Capitalism and Slavery》——看看真正的邪恶长什么样；伊本·图斐利的《活着，在生命的尽头》（Hayy ibn Yaqdhan）——美好生活的“理论”；玛雅·安吉洛的《I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings》——美好生活的“实践”。《I Know Why…
I like this dumb idea, how about 3 different books Capitalism and Slavery by Eric Williams - what evil really looks like Hayy ibn Yaqdhan by Ibn Tufail - the "theory" of a good life I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou - the "practice" of a good life I Know Why…
关于这个问题的 1944 年经典文献：https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism_and_Slavery > 该书除了探讨一段经济史之外，更是对‘道德和人道主义动机是英国废奴运动胜利之关键’这一观点发起的正面抨击。它……
Classic text from 1944 on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism_and_Slavery > The book, besides dealing with a passage of economic history, was furthermore a frontal attack on the idea that moral and humanitarian motives were key in the victory of British abolitionism. It was…
>为什么你觉得国家是因为奴隶制才变得更富裕的？关于这个主题有很多书，我觉得《Capitalism and Slavery》讲得很透彻，而且史料记录非常详实。奴隶制是南部经济的支柱组成部分，绝不仅仅是少数几个奴隶主发家致富的问题；它已经根植于整个生活方式之中……
>Why do you think the country is richer because of slavery? There are plenty of books on this subject, I think "Capitalism and Slavery" goes into this well, but it's pretty well documented. Slavery was a huge part of the southern economy, it wasn't just a few individual slaveholders getting rich; it was embedded in the very way of life…
……确实很复杂，但你肯定会认同三角贸易对于那些最终引领工业革命的经济体来说至关重要。虽然我没读过，但我认为埃里克·威廉姆斯的《Capitalism and Slavery》是一部很有影响力的作品，以极力论证书名中两者（资本主义与奴隶制）之间的联系而闻名（当然并不是所有人都认同他的观点）。
…difficult, but surely you'd agree that the Triangle Trade was important to the economies that actually ended up leading the Industrial Revolution. Although I have not read it, I think Eric Williams's Capitalism and Slavery is an influential work well known for forcefully arguing for a link between the eponymous phenomena (of course not everyone agrees with its claims).
……“争议极其激烈”，你却说是“错得离谱”。你到底看不看你自己贴的链接？“聚焦英国的一个重要原因，无疑是埃里克·威廉姆斯在 1944 年首次出版并被广泛引用的名著《Capitalism and slavery》。”人家专门写了整整一本书来论证它！这课题就是有这么深。我记得在 YouTube 上看过一个 1 小时的讲座，里面那位教授论证跨大西洋……
…"fiercely debated", you say "wildly incorrect". Do you actually read the sources you link to? "One important reason for this focus on Britain was no doubt the publication of Eric Williams’ much-cited book Capitalism and slavery, first published in 1944." Someone actually wrote a whole book about it! That's how deep the subject is. I remember watching a 1 hour lecture on you tube, where this professor argued that the trans-Atlantic…
……最终在内战时期成了净负收益，即使不把战争成本算进去也是如此；而且战后在没有这个累赘的情况下经济增长更快。（这本书 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism_and_Slavery 讲到了这一点。）不过我敢肯定，在废奴时期肯定也有人辩解说这是一种必要的恶：> 奴隶制的拥护者辩称，奴隶制经济的戛然而止将会带来……
…eventually, at the time of the civil war, a net negative, even not accounting for costs of the war, and that afterwards the economy grew faster without that deadweight. (The book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism_and_Slavery covers this.) I'm sure there were people arguing at the time of abolition that it was a necessary evil too though: > Defenders of slavery argued that the sudden end to the slave economy would have had…