《德意志意识形态》封面

德意志意识形态

The German Ideology

Karl Marx、Friedrich Engels · 初版 1932 年

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为什么值得读

  • 提出高度发达资本主义是消除贫困的前提
  • 描绘上午打猎下午捕鱼的自由生活设想
  • 包含了对施蒂纳等青年黑格尔派的深度论战

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  • ……某种更接近去除了斯大林主义成分的列宁实际意识形态的东西;但无论如何这都是模棱两可的)。在马克思主义理论下,所有这些体制都注定要失败——马克思早在《德意志意识形态》(1845)中就论证过,他认为高度发达的资本主义经济拥有足够的财富,使得再分配能够消除贫困,而不仅仅是均摊贫困,这是走向社会主义的必要前提……

    …something closer to Lenins actual ideology purged of the Stalinist elements; but in any case it is ambiguous). Under Marxist theory all of these systems are doomed to failure - Marx argued already in The German Ideology (1845) that he saw an advanced capitalist economy with sufficient wealth that redistribution would eliminated poverty, rather than just spread it around, to be an essential precondition for a socialist…

  • ……明天,上午打猎,下午捕鱼,傍晚牧牛,晚饭后批评,完全随我的心意,而绝不会成为猎人、渔夫、牧人或批判家。”——马克思,《德意志意识形态》。只要把“社会”替换成“中心化 AI”就行了。为了找点事做,如果不再需要创造真正的价值,现实可能就是生活变成了无聊空洞的一连串画画聚会、烹饪班……

    …tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic." --Marx, The German Ideology Just replace 'society' with 'centralized AI'. To keep busy, maybe the reality if you don't need to create real value anymore is that life becomes a half-empty series of paint nights, cooking classes,…

  • ……给大多数人带来优势,但足以让他们所有人摆脱贫困,并提供充裕的财富,让人几乎没有动力去通过绕开社会规则来获取更多。引用马克思在《德意志意识形态》(1845)里的话:“这种‘异化’(用哲学家听得懂的话来说)当然只有在具备了两个实际前提下才能被废除。要使它成为一种‘不堪忍受’的力量,即……”

    …advantage for the majority, but sufficient to lift them all out of poverty and provide sufficient wealth that there is little incentive to circumvent societal rules to obtain more. To quote Marx from "The German Ideology" (1845): 'This “alienation” (to use a term which will be comprehensible to the philosophers) can, of course, only be abolished given two practical premises. For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e.…

  • ……不过马克思说过,你(作为一个阶级)生存的物质条件决定了你的意识形态。我认为研究尼采该读的是《论道德的谱系》(On The Genealogy of Morals),研究马克思该读的是《德意志意识形态》(The German Ideology)。关于解构主义的渊源,我近期不打算去读《论文字学》(Of Grammatology),但你是我听过的第一个主张海德格尔应该分得一份功劳的人,所以你得……

    …except that Marx said that the material conditions of your (as a class) existence shape your ideology. I think the text to look at for N. is "On The Genealogy of Morals" and the text for Marx is "The German Ideology". Regarding the provenance of deconstruction. I'm not about to read "Of Grammatology" any time soon but you are the first person I've heard to assert the Heidegger should be given credit so you need…

  • ……出于对最终能够消除贫困的日益乐观的情绪,引发了意识形态的发展。社会主义的诞生基本上就植根于这种乐观主义。马克思在《德意志意识形态》(1845)中指出,资本主义必须高度发达,以确保其生产水平能够通过再分配消除基本匮乏,这是社会主义革命取得成功的必要条件,……

    …triggered ideological developments out of a growing optimism over the ability of finally doing away with poverty. The birth of socialism was basically rooted in this optimism. Marx made the point in The German Ideology (1845) that a sufficiently well developed capitalism to ensure a level of production that would allow redistribution to eliminate basic wants would be essential for a successful socialist revolution,…

  • 为什么从来没有——过去也从未有过——一个建立在马克思主义原则之上的国家?答案早在 1845 年马克思就在《德意志意识形态》第一卷第一章第 5 节中直截了当地给出了:“另一方面,生产力的这种发展(这种发展本身已经包含人们的普遍交往,人们的经验的存在是在世界历史的、而不是在地域的……”

    Why is it that there is not - nor ever was - a single country built on Marxist principles? The answer was quite simply stated by Marx as early as 1845, in The German Ideology, chapter one, part A [1], section 5: "And, on the other hand, this development of productive forces (which itself implies the actual empirical existence of men in their world-historical, instead of local,…

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