替罪羊

Scapegoat

René Girard · 初版 2003 年

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  • ……《硅谷与对抗不公的发声》(Speaking Out Against Injustice)- Susan Fowler、《怪异谷》(Uncanny Valley)- Anna Wiener、《科技圈所谓的思考:探究硅谷的思想基石》(What Tech Calls Thinking: An Inquiry Into the Intellectual Bedrock of Silicon Valley)- Adrian Daub、《替罪羊》(The Scapegoat)- René Girard

    …Silicon Valley and Speaking Out Against Injustice - Susan Fowler Uncanny Valley - Anna Wiener What Tech Calls Thinking: An Inquiry Into the Intellectual Bedrock of Silicon Valley - Adrian Daub The Scapegoat - René Girard

  • 勒内·吉拉尔(Rene Girard)的《替罪羊》(The Scapegoat),书中指出我们极易受到模仿他人的影响;而当我们模仿时,往往会导致激烈的冲突,因为我们经常模仿别人对稀缺资源的欲望(比如……

    “The Scapegoat” by Rene Girard, which suggests that we are deeply vulnerable to imitating others; and that when we imitate, this tends to lead to deep conflict, for we often imitate desire for scarce objects (e.g. a…

  • ……绝对在这个书单里的有 Sarah Perry 的《武器化神圣》(Weaponised Sacredness),尤其是关于 egregores 的那一节(https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2015/05/07/weaponized-sacredness/ ctrl-f “The Egregore”)、Rene Girard 的《替罪羊》(Scapegoat),以及作为对抗性阅读(那些你不得不正视的极具威胁性的思想)的 Spandrell 的《IQ Shredder》和 Nick Land 的《Hell-Baked》。总的来说,这个书单旨在让人理解那些鲜为人知的力量,这些力量……

    …definitely on that list are Weaponised Sacredness by Sarah Perry, specifically the section on egregores (https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2015/05/07/weaponized-sacredness/ ctrl-f “The Egregore”), Rene Girard’s Scapegoat, and as antagonistic reading (threatening ideas you must engage with) Spandrell’s IQ Shredder, and Nick Land’s Hell-Baked. In general the list is about coming to understand little-recognized forces that…

  • 《替罪羊》(The Scapegoat),René Girard。

    The Scapegoat, René Girard.

  • ……硬币的另一面是,羞辱一个违背规范的人(无论他是否有罪)也是一种群体凝聚的体验,而且可能是向部落展示自己占据道德制高点的一种自私手段。Rene Girard 的替罪羊理论(Scapegoat Theory)为这种现象提供了一个很有意思的模型:https://www.iep.utm.edu/girard/#H3

    …that coin is shaming a violator of norms (whether guilty or innocent) is also a group bonding experience, and potentially a selfish means for signaling one's moral high ground to the tribe. Rene Girard's Scapegoat Theory presents an interesting model of the phenomenon: https://www.iep.utm.edu/girard/#H3

  • 这里有人发过一个链接,精彩地驳斥了 Girard 在《替罪羊》(The Scapegoat)中的论点。基本上,为了立论,他完全是在瞎编乱造——不管是关于基督教、关于俄狄浦斯,还是关于他拿来支撑自己立场的几乎所有历史证据。如果你……

    Someone here gave a link to a masterful takedown of Girard's claims in The Scapegoat. Basically, in order to make his claims, he's just making stuff up - about Christianity, and about Oedipus, and about almost everything else he cites as historical evidence for his position. If you…

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