Devil's advocate: Imagine a world in which theft, rape, slavery, and child abuse are impossible (more than once / for any meaningful period of time). Have you read any of Iain Banks's Culture series? I think the peace of mind that you and everyone you'll ever know will never get disappeared into someone's rape dungeon doesn't seem so bad. Or that you can go into business and actually win…
> CNN：你想生活在文明（Culture）社会里吗？> Iain M. Banks：天呐，当然想，那必须的，噢那简直是我的世俗天堂……是的，我绝对愿意。Iain Banks 的“文明”也是我的乌托邦。在所有的科幻世界和社会中……
> CNN: Would you like to live in the Culture? > Iain M. Banks: Good grief yes, heck, yeah, oh it’s my secular heaven….Yes, I would, absolutely. Iain Banks's The Culture is my Utopia too. Of all the worlds and societies of science fiction that…
……在他的想象里，但这要是换成科幻小说之外的其他形式来表现会更好。想真正看出他作为作家写得有多烂，拿去跟大师们比比就知道：Stanislaw Lem、Gene Wolfe、Iain Banks（文明系列）、斯特鲁加茨基兄弟、Kurt Vonnegut、Robert Heinlein、J.G. Ballard、Ursula Le Guin、William Gibson……既然这个帖子里提到了《沙丘》，我觉得前两本简直是……
…in his imagination but it'd be better presented in a different format than science fiction. To truly see how bad he is as a writer, compare him to the greats: Stanislaw Lem, Gene Wolfe, Iain Banks (Culture Series), Strugatsky brothers, Kurt Vonnegut, Robert Heinlein, J.G. Ballard, Ursula Le Guin, William Gibson ... Since Dune was mentioned in this thread, I find the first two books to be absolutely in…
I'm now glad Amazon decided not to do a show based on the Culture series by Iain Banks. I can only imagine how horrible that'd be, since they have even less taste than Apple or Netflix. Sci-fi is better for it, just read the books, they're excellent.
…these things is that these people will die, and be replaced by younger generations who grew up with different ideals. I hope to be cryogenically frozen and one day awake into a world like that of the Culture in the books of Iain Banks, but I know on some level that this isn't just decades or centuries away: it's millennia.
……政府。（我原本写的是“任何组织”，但任何拥有这种强制权力的组织实际上就成了事实上的政府……）最近一部对高度技术文明持积极态度的科幻作品是《文明》（Iain Banks 著）。不过，那里有趣的故事都发生在边境地区，也就是文明文明与其他非文明文明交互的地方。《游戏玩家》（Player of Games）是个很好的入门读物。
…government. (I originally wrote "any organization", but any organization with such compulsory power becomes the de facto government...) A recent sci-fi with a positive view of hyper-tech civilization is "The Culture" (Iain Banks). However, the interesting stories there all occur on the borders, with the interaction of the Culture with non-Culture civilizations. "Player of Games" is a good starting point.
唱个反调：想象一下，如果有一个世界，盗窃、强奸、奴役和虐童都根本不可能发生（发生不了一次以上/不可能持续任何有意义的时间）。你看过 Iain Banks 的文明（Culture）系列吗？我觉得，只要能确信自己和你认识的所有人都绝不会突然人间蒸发被关进某个人的强奸地牢里，这种安心感似乎也不错。或者你能正经做生意而且真能做成……
Devil's advocate: Imagine a world in which theft, rape, slavery, and child abuse are impossible (more than once / for any meaningful period of time). Have you read any of Iain Banks's Culture series? I think the peace of mind that you and everyone you'll ever know will never get disappeared into someone's rape dungeon doesn't seem so bad. Or that you can go into business and actually win…
> CNN：你想生活在文明（Culture）社会里吗？> Iain M. Banks：天呐，当然想，那必须的，噢那简直是我的世俗天堂……是的，我绝对愿意。Iain Banks 的“文明”也是我的乌托邦。在所有的科幻世界和社会中……
> CNN: Would you like to live in the Culture? > Iain M. Banks: Good grief yes, heck, yeah, oh it’s my secular heaven….Yes, I would, absolutely. Iain Banks's The Culture is my Utopia too. Of all the worlds and societies of science fiction that…
……在他的想象里，但这要是换成科幻小说之外的其他形式来表现会更好。想真正看出他作为作家写得有多烂，拿去跟大师们比比就知道：Stanislaw Lem、Gene Wolfe、Iain Banks（文明系列）、斯特鲁加茨基兄弟、Kurt Vonnegut、Robert Heinlein、J.G. Ballard、Ursula Le Guin、William Gibson……既然这个帖子里提到了《沙丘》，我觉得前两本简直是……
…in his imagination but it'd be better presented in a different format than science fiction. To truly see how bad he is as a writer, compare him to the greats: Stanislaw Lem, Gene Wolfe, Iain Banks (Culture Series), Strugatsky brothers, Kurt Vonnegut, Robert Heinlein, J.G. Ballard, Ursula Le Guin, William Gibson ... Since Dune was mentioned in this thread, I find the first two books to be absolutely in…
我现在倒挺庆幸亚马逊决定不拍 Iain Banks 的文明系列改编剧了。我只能想象那会拍得有多烂，毕竟他们的品味比苹果或 Netflix 还要差。没拍成对科幻圈反而是好事，直接去读书吧，原著精彩绝伦。
I'm now glad Amazon decided not to do a show based on the Culture series by Iain Banks. I can only imagine how horrible that'd be, since they have even less taste than Apple or Netflix. Sci-fi is better for it, just read the books, they're excellent.
……这些事情的关键在于，这些人终究会死掉，取而代之的是在不同理想熏陶下成长起来的年轻一代。我希望自己能被人体冷冻，有朝一日在一个像 Iain Banks 书中“文明”那样的世界里醒来，但我内心深处明白，这绝不仅仅是几十年或几个世纪后的事：这得花上几千年。
…these things is that these people will die, and be replaced by younger generations who grew up with different ideals. I hope to be cryogenically frozen and one day awake into a world like that of the Culture in the books of Iain Banks, but I know on some level that this isn't just decades or centuries away: it's millennia.
……政府。（我原本写的是“任何组织”，但任何拥有这种强制权力的组织实际上就成了事实上的政府……）最近一部对高度技术文明持积极态度的科幻作品是《文明》（Iain Banks 著）。不过，那里有趣的故事都发生在边境地区，也就是文明文明与其他非文明文明交互的地方。《游戏玩家》（Player of Games）是个很好的入门读物。
…government. (I originally wrote "any organization", but any organization with such compulsory power becomes the de facto government...) A recent sci-fi with a positive view of hyper-tech civilization is "The Culture" (Iain Banks). However, the interesting stories there all occur on the borders, with the interaction of the Culture with non-Culture civilizations. "Player of Games" is a good starting point.