……让更多爱好者能用上早期的 Logo 系统，方便大家去探索、实验，当然还有搞搞 hacking。[...] >MIT APLOGO >根据 Leigh L Klotz Jr. 的记录，Hal Abelson 在 MIT 主导了面向 Apple II 的 Logo 项目。>MIT APLOGO 由 Stephen Hain、Patrick G. Sobalvarro 以及 Leigh L Klotz Jr. 共同开发。它是跑在 PDP-10 上、针对 Apple-II-Plus 个人微型计算机进行开发和交叉编译的，当时在……
…early Logo systems available to a wider audience of enthusiasts for exploration, experimenting and, of course, hacking. [...] >MIT APLOGO >In accordance with Leigh L Klotz Jr., Hal Abelson directed the Logo for the Apple II project at MIT. >MIT APLOGO was developed by Stephen Hain, Patrick G. Sobalvarro and Leigh L Klotz Jr. It was developed and cross-compilled for the Apple-II-Plus Personal Microcomputer on PDP-10 at the…
……让更多爱好者能用上早期的 Logo 系统，方便大家去探索、实验，当然还有搞搞 hacking。[...] >MIT APLOGO >根据 Leigh L Klotz Jr. 的记录，Hal Abelson 在 MIT 主导了面向 Apple II 的 Logo 项目。>MIT APLOGO 由 Stephen Hain、Patrick G. Sobalvarro 以及 Leigh L Klotz Jr. 共同开发。它是跑在 PDP-10 上、针对 Apple-II-Plus 个人微型计算机进行开发和交叉编译的，当时在……
…early Logo systems available to a wider audience of enthusiasts for exploration, experimenting and, of course, hacking. [...] >MIT APLOGO >In accordance with Leigh L Klotz Jr., Hal Abelson directed the Logo for the Apple II project at MIT. >MIT APLOGO was developed by Stephen Hain, Patrick G. Sobalvarro and Leigh L Klotz Jr. It was developed and cross-compilled for the Apple-II-Plus Personal Microcomputer on PDP-10 at the…
注意当时面向 Apple II 的 Logo 有两个版本。另一个版本是由 Logo Computer Systems Inc. 开发的（我当时是员工之一）。我们的版本最初是用 Lisp 写的（在 Lisp Machine 上），然后人工编译成汇编。那个 Lisp 开发版本……
Note there were two versions of Logo for the Apple II. The other was developed by Logo Computer Systems Inc. (I was one of the staff). Our version was written first in Lisp (on Lisp Machines) then manually compiled to assembler. The Lisp development…
在今天之前，针对 Apple II 的这个 MIT Logo 版本曾经公开释出过吗？我之所以这么问，是因为刚好一周前看到 reaperducer 的评论：https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18086566
Before today, was this version of MIT Logo for the Apple II EVER released? I'm asking because of reaperducer's comment from just a week ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18086566
多谢 Don！我本来想留言说，我当年在 Apple II 和 C64 上用 Logo 写了个 6502 汇编器，而且是随系统附带发布的，文档里还详细介绍了怎么写汇编。我一直希望能听到有哪个小孩当年是照着它学会 6502 汇编的呢。不过你肯定不算了，因为你本来就懂 6502 汇编。
Thank you Don! I was going to comment that I wrote a 6502 assembler in Logo for the Apple II and the C64 and it shipped with it and it was documented how to write in assembler. I was hoping to hear some kid learned 6502 assembler from it. That counts you out since you already knew 6502 assembler.
我高二学代数 II 的时候用过 Logo。我记得当时在《Byte》杂志上看到了那一期，心想：嘿，我能拿它画函数图像啊！我们学校计算机社团正好有配了 Logo 的 Apple II 机器，我就直接上手了！我很快就摸索出不能画每一个点、怎么根据屏幕分辨率决定采多少个点，以及对 dx 应该取多大有了感觉。……
I used Logo while taking Algebra II in high school. I remember seeing this issue of Byte at the time and I realized hey, I can plot functions! Our CS club had Logo for the Apple II machines they had and away I went! I learned very quickly not to plot every single point, how to determine how much to plot based off of display resolution, and get an idea for what your dx should be.…
……让更多爱好者能用上早期的 Logo 系统，方便大家去探索、实验，当然还有搞搞 hacking。[...] >MIT APLOGO >根据 Leigh L Klotz Jr. 的记录，Hal Abelson 在 MIT 主导了面向 Apple II 的 Logo 项目。>MIT APLOGO 由 Stephen Hain、Patrick G. Sobalvarro 以及 Leigh L Klotz Jr. 共同开发。它是跑在 PDP-10 上、针对 Apple-II-Plus 个人微型计算机进行开发和交叉编译的，当时在……
…early Logo systems available to a wider audience of enthusiasts for exploration, experimenting and, of course, hacking. [...] >MIT APLOGO >In accordance with Leigh L Klotz Jr., Hal Abelson directed the Logo for the Apple II project at MIT. >MIT APLOGO was developed by Stephen Hain, Patrick G. Sobalvarro and Leigh L Klotz Jr. It was developed and cross-compilled for the Apple-II-Plus Personal Microcomputer on PDP-10 at the…
……让更多爱好者能用上早期的 Logo 系统，方便大家去探索、实验，当然还有搞搞 hacking。[...] >MIT APLOGO >根据 Leigh L Klotz Jr. 的记录，Hal Abelson 在 MIT 主导了面向 Apple II 的 Logo 项目。>MIT APLOGO 由 Stephen Hain、Patrick G. Sobalvarro 以及 Leigh L Klotz Jr. 共同开发。它是跑在 PDP-10 上、针对 Apple-II-Plus 个人微型计算机进行开发和交叉编译的，当时在……
…early Logo systems available to a wider audience of enthusiasts for exploration, experimenting and, of course, hacking. [...] >MIT APLOGO >In accordance with Leigh L Klotz Jr., Hal Abelson directed the Logo for the Apple II project at MIT. >MIT APLOGO was developed by Stephen Hain, Patrick G. Sobalvarro and Leigh L Klotz Jr. It was developed and cross-compilled for the Apple-II-Plus Personal Microcomputer on PDP-10 at the…
注意当时面向 Apple II 的 Logo 有两个版本。另一个版本是由 Logo Computer Systems Inc. 开发的（我当时是员工之一）。我们的版本最初是用 Lisp 写的（在 Lisp Machine 上），然后人工编译成汇编。那个 Lisp 开发版本……
Note there were two versions of Logo for the Apple II. The other was developed by Logo Computer Systems Inc. (I was one of the staff). Our version was written first in Lisp (on Lisp Machines) then manually compiled to assembler. The Lisp development…
在今天之前，针对 Apple II 的这个 MIT Logo 版本曾经公开释出过吗？我之所以这么问，是因为刚好一周前看到 reaperducer 的评论：https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18086566
Before today, was this version of MIT Logo for the Apple II EVER released? I'm asking because of reaperducer's comment from just a week ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18086566
多谢 Don！我本来想留言说，我当年在 Apple II 和 C64 上用 Logo 写了个 6502 汇编器，而且是随系统附带发布的，文档里还详细介绍了怎么写汇编。我一直希望能听到有哪个小孩当年是照着它学会 6502 汇编的呢。不过你肯定不算了，因为你本来就懂 6502 汇编。
Thank you Don! I was going to comment that I wrote a 6502 assembler in Logo for the Apple II and the C64 and it shipped with it and it was documented how to write in assembler. I was hoping to hear some kid learned 6502 assembler from it. That counts you out since you already knew 6502 assembler.
我高二学代数 II 的时候用过 Logo。我记得当时在《Byte》杂志上看到了那一期，心想：嘿，我能拿它画函数图像啊！我们学校计算机社团正好有配了 Logo 的 Apple II 机器，我就直接上手了！我很快就摸索出不能画每一个点、怎么根据屏幕分辨率决定采多少个点，以及对 dx 应该取多大有了感觉。……
I used Logo while taking Algebra II in high school. I remember seeing this issue of Byte at the time and I realized hey, I can plot functions! Our CS club had Logo for the Apple II machines they had and away I went! I learned very quickly not to plot every single point, how to determine how much to plot based off of display resolution, and get an idea for what your dx should be.…