如果你希望洛夫克拉夫特神话照进现实，那么混沌魔法（chaos magic，主要由 Peter J Carroll 在《Liber Null & Psychonaut》中推广普及）这个领域会很有意思。至于传统的仪式/典礼魔法，《七日谈》（The Heptameron）可能是旧魔法书里最好读的一本了，虽然 Joseph Lisiewski 也有不少反对者，但他……
If you want the Lovecraftian mythos to be a thing, then the field of chaos magic (popularised largely by Peter J Carroll in Liber Null and Psychonaut) is an interesting one. For traditional ritual/ceremonial magic The Heptameron is possibly the easiest of the old grimoires to read, and whilst he has his detractors Joseph Lisiewski's…
My apologies: I just saw your request. You also don't have an email published so I'm not able to send it to you directly. I would heartily recommend Liber Null and Psychonaut. You may choose to buy it via Amazon, but below is the ebook download (multiple formats). https://archive.org/details/LiberNullAndThePsychonaut Please know that most of your change will…
我一定会去看看的！顺便扯句无关的，我正在读 Peter J Carroll 的《Liber Null》，觉得挺扎实的，你读过吗？虽然不是泰勒玛（Thelema），但已经很接近了。
I'll be sure to go and check that out! Somewhat unrelated, I'm going through Liber Null, from Pter J Caroll and I find it pretty solid, did you ever read it? It's not Thelema but it's prett close.
……这些玩意儿就是很酷，所以“允许”自己去钻研市面上各种关于“魔法”的文献还挺好玩的。（整个混沌魔法这块全是一堆好玩又古怪的东西，比如去看看《Liber Null》）。我觉得我提到的那个 Weird Studies 播客在概述《SSOTBME》的观点时比这篇帖子讲得好得多，而且他们还聊过另一本书《Technic and Magic》，里面也有一些相似的……
…stuff is just cool, and so it's been kind of fun to "allow" myself to dig into some of the various literature out there on "magic". (The whole Chaos Magic thing is full of fun and wacky stuff, check out "Liber Null," for example). I think the Weird Studies pod I mentioned does a much better job than this post outlining the ideas in SSOTBME, and they covered another book, Technic and Magic, that has some similar…
这基本上就是一本为下一代更新的混沌魔法书。就像是 Peter J. Carroll 的《Liber Null & Psychonaut》的动漫/电子游戏文化版。而克劳利（Crowley）在另一边，基本上就是个反抗维多利亚时代和基督教道德的富二代信托基金宝贝。我觉得他搞的那套在世俗社会里根本没多大意义……
This is basically a chaos magic book updated for the next generation. Like an anime/video game culture version of Peter J. Carroll - Liber Null & Psychonaut. Crowley on the other hand is basically a trust fund kid rebelling against Victorian and Christian morality. I don't think what he was doing makes all that much sense in a secular society…
……几十年过去了，在此期间你的心智却浸泡在妄想与谎言之中。很好奇，你觉得有什么读物/学习资料是掌握这门技能真正靠谱的？克劳利的《Magick: Book IV》、卡罗尔的《Liber Null & Psychonaut》，还是别的完全不同的东西？
…decades and in the meantime your mind swims in delusions and lies. Curious if there is any reading/study material that you consider reliable for developing mastery? Crowley's Magick: Book IV, Carroll's Liber Null & Psychonaut, or perhaps something completely different?
如果你希望洛夫克拉夫特神话照进现实，那么混沌魔法（chaos magic，主要由 Peter J Carroll 在《Liber Null & Psychonaut》中推广普及）这个领域会很有意思。至于传统的仪式/典礼魔法，《七日谈》（The Heptameron）可能是旧魔法书里最好读的一本了，虽然 Joseph Lisiewski 也有不少反对者，但他……
If you want the Lovecraftian mythos to be a thing, then the field of chaos magic (popularised largely by Peter J Carroll in Liber Null and Psychonaut) is an interesting one. For traditional ritual/ceremonial magic The Heptameron is possibly the easiest of the old grimoires to read, and whilst he has his detractors Joseph Lisiewski's…
抱歉：我才看到你的求助。你也没公开邮箱，所以我没法直接发给你。我由衷推荐《Liber Null & Psychonaut》。你可以选择去 Amazon 购买，不过下面是电子书下载链接（多种格式）：https://archive.org/details/LiberNullAndThePsychonaut 请明白，你的大部分改变将……
My apologies: I just saw your request. You also don't have an email published so I'm not able to send it to you directly. I would heartily recommend Liber Null and Psychonaut. You may choose to buy it via Amazon, but below is the ebook download (multiple formats). https://archive.org/details/LiberNullAndThePsychonaut Please know that most of your change will…
我一定会去看看的！顺便扯句无关的，我正在读 Peter J Carroll 的《Liber Null》，觉得挺扎实的，你读过吗？虽然不是泰勒玛（Thelema），但已经很接近了。
I'll be sure to go and check that out! Somewhat unrelated, I'm going through Liber Null, from Pter J Caroll and I find it pretty solid, did you ever read it? It's not Thelema but it's prett close.
……这些玩意儿就是很酷，所以“允许”自己去钻研市面上各种关于“魔法”的文献还挺好玩的。（整个混沌魔法这块全是一堆好玩又古怪的东西，比如去看看《Liber Null》）。我觉得我提到的那个 Weird Studies 播客在概述《SSOTBME》的观点时比这篇帖子讲得好得多，而且他们还聊过另一本书《Technic and Magic》，里面也有一些相似的……
…stuff is just cool, and so it's been kind of fun to "allow" myself to dig into some of the various literature out there on "magic". (The whole Chaos Magic thing is full of fun and wacky stuff, check out "Liber Null," for example). I think the Weird Studies pod I mentioned does a much better job than this post outlining the ideas in SSOTBME, and they covered another book, Technic and Magic, that has some similar…
这基本上就是一本为下一代更新的混沌魔法书。就像是 Peter J. Carroll 的《Liber Null & Psychonaut》的动漫/电子游戏文化版。而克劳利（Crowley）在另一边，基本上就是个反抗维多利亚时代和基督教道德的富二代信托基金宝贝。我觉得他搞的那套在世俗社会里根本没多大意义……
This is basically a chaos magic book updated for the next generation. Like an anime/video game culture version of Peter J. Carroll - Liber Null & Psychonaut. Crowley on the other hand is basically a trust fund kid rebelling against Victorian and Christian morality. I don't think what he was doing makes all that much sense in a secular society…
……几十年过去了，在此期间你的心智却浸泡在妄想与谎言之中。很好奇，你觉得有什么读物/学习资料是掌握这门技能真正靠谱的？克劳利的《Magick: Book IV》、卡罗尔的《Liber Null & Psychonaut》，还是别的完全不同的东西？
…decades and in the meantime your mind swims in delusions and lies. Curious if there is any reading/study material that you consider reliable for developing mastery? Crowley's Magick: Book IV, Carroll's Liber Null & Psychonaut, or perhaps something completely different?