设计自由
Designing freedom
Stafford Beer · 初版 1974 年
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在1973年的这组梅西讲座中，Stafford Beer为系统论和控制论这门新科学进行了系统阐述。他的论文探讨了诸多议题，如“对我们最珍视之物构成的真正威胁”、“现代人弃之不用的工具”、“自由机器的原型”、“为人类服务的科学”、“当下即可争取的未来”、“控制论世界中的自由人”。《Designing Freedom》深入思索了在控制论世界中实现自由的种种可能。
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……各方面都做得很彻底。说到具体编程语言，我觉得投资 Elixir 很划算。编辑补充：要是有人对系统类读物感兴趣，可以看这几本：* 多内拉·梅多斯的《系统之美》 * 斯塔福德·比尔的《设计自由》。顺便比尔的任何书我都推荐。* 克里斯托弗·亚历山大的任何书 * 《社会变革中的系统思考：解决复杂问题、避免意外……的实用指南》
…made all across the board. For specific programming languages, I think Elixir is a great investment. Edit: Some systems reading if anyone is curious: * Thinking in Systems by Donella H. Meadows * Designing Freedom by Stafford Beer. I also recommend anything by Stafford Beer. * Anything by Christopher Alexander * Systems Thinking For Social Change: A Practical Guide to Solving Complex Problems, Avoiding Unintended…
……总比两手一摊、根本不去钻研要好。重力概念当年也并非一开始就很清晰，我们花了不少时间才发展并理解了它。我强烈推荐斯塔福德·比尔的著作，以及《设计自由》这本书和配套讲座：https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-...
…our hands up in the air and not trying to investigate them. Gravity wasn’t always well crystallized. It took us time to develop and understand it. I highly recommend Stafford Beer’s writings and the Designing Freedom book and/or lectures. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-...
极好的推荐。我再添一本斯塔福德·比尔的《设计自由》，算是一本很棒的入门书。有实体书，这里还有一系列免费讲座音频：https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-... 你说“令人失望的……”真是切中要害。
Excellent recommendation. I'll add Designing Freedom by Stafford Beer as a great intro. Available as a book and a series of free lectures here: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-... You hit the nail on the head with the "disappointing…
……大概2003年左右的英国《卫报》，居然登在那儿。想更深入了解当时的政治局势，可以看看《对死者的承诺》（阿里尔·多夫曼编剧 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1097260/）。也可以读读《设计自由》（就在政变发生后写成），能帮你搞清楚斯塔福德·比尔究竟想表达什么 http://ada.evergreen.edu/~arunc/texts/cybernetics/beer/book....
…guardian (uk) circa 2003 of all places. If you want a better picture of the political situation check out "a promise to the dead" (by ariel dorfman http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1097260/). You can also read designing freedom (written right after the coupe) to get a solid idea of what stafford beer was driving at http://ada.evergreen.edu/~arunc/texts/cybernetics/beer/book....
这并不是什么新想法，看看赛博协同工程（Project Cybersyn）[1] 就知道了。主持该项目大部分架构设计的斯塔福德·比尔写过几本书/作品，我推荐读读：- 《企业的脑》 - 《设计自由》，1973年梅西讲座[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn [2] https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-...
This isn't a new idea, see Project Cybersyn[1]. A few books / works by Stafford Beer, who architected much of that project, that I recommend reading. - Brain Of The Firm - Designing Freedom, 1973 Massey Lectures[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn [2] https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-...
我推荐：- 斯塔福德·比尔的《设计自由》 - 斯塔福德·比尔的《企业的脑》 - 多内拉·梅多斯的《系统之美》
I recommend: - Designing Freedom by Stafford Beer - Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer - Thinking in Systems by Donella Meadows