《高地清洗》封面

高地清洗

The Highland clearances

Prebble, John · 初版 1963 年

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  • 我赞同你的感受,但从历史上看,你的祖上好几代长辈很可能是在高地清洗(Highland Clearances)中被他的氏族首领给出卖了,然后移民到了加拿大/美国。这给养羊腾出了地方(苏格兰许多地方至今人口仍然相对稀疏),而氏族首领大概把钱挥霍在了伦敦的联排豪宅上。……

    I agree with your sentiment, but historically your Grand-x father potentially got sold out in the Highland Clearances by his clan leader and then emigrated to Canada/US. This made way for sheep (lots of Scotland is still relatively underpopulated) and the head of the clan probably blew the money on a town-house in London.…

  • 说到这里,我们必须开始区分政治实体和普通民众了。英格兰统治了苏格兰,除了暂时禁止盖尔语和高地服饰,以及搞了高地清洗(Highland Clearances)之外?后者其实并不单纯,因为涉事的地主很多本身也是苏格兰人。如果允许我粘贴一段维基百科的话:<blockquote> 随着伪科学种族主义的发展……

    At this point we have to start distinguishing between the political entities and the people. English dominated Scotland Apart from the ban on Gaelic and Highland dress for a while, and the Highland Clearances? The latter are not entirely simple, as plenty of the landowners in question were also Scottish. If I may paste a paragraph from Wikipedia: <blockquote> With the development of pseudoscientific racist…

  • 有些苏格兰人非要把高地清洗(Highland Clearances)和其他恶行改写成全都是英格兰人干的,这种心思实在很丑陋,是对历史懦弱的逃避,也是最恶劣的一种历史浪漫化。我读到过不少类似的情绪……

    The desire of some Scots to rewrite the Highland Clearances and other nastiness as being perpetuated by the English is really quite ugly, a cowardly refusal to stand up to the past, and the worst kind of romanticism of history. I've read quite a few similar sentiments…

  • ……由一帮贵族家庭持有”一点都不奇怪,尤其是考虑到这些家族的土地是政府当年拿枪指着原主人和原住民强行夺走送给他们的——即高地清洗(Highland Clearances)。简而言之,漫游权(right to roam)原本就存在;它只是被极其不正当的手段给剥夺了;而占有土地的极少数人还极力阻止公众进入。(关于英格兰和威尔士的情况,可以先看……

    …held by a list of aristocratic families" is not at all surprising when you consider that those families were given the land from its original owners and occupants at gunpoint by the government. - the Highland Clearances In short, the right to roam pre-existed; it was only removed by extremely questionable action; and the minority who owned the land fought access to it. (For the situation in England&Wales, start at…

  • ……《唐纳德·麦克劳德对苏格兰高地的阴郁记忆》(Donald McLeod's Gloomy memories in the Highlands of Scotland)——关于高地清洗(Clearances)的第一手记述:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Donald-McLeods-memories-Highlands-S... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances

    …"Donald McLeod's Gloomy memories in the Highlands of Scotland" - a first hand account of the Clearances: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Donald-McLeods-memories-Highlands-S... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances

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