拼死求胜
Dying to win
Robert Anthony Pape、Robert Pape、Robert A Pape · 初版 2005 年
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自杀式恐怖主义在全球范围内呈蔓延之势，但人们对其成因却莫衷一是。在这部颠覆既有范式的分析著作中，芝加哥大学政治学家 Robert Pape 收集了开创性的证据，阐明了导致这一与日俱增威胁的战略、社会和个体因素。作为该领域全球顶尖权威之一，Pape 教授建立了首个囊括 1980 年至今全球所有自杀式恐怖袭击的综合数据库。凭借令人瞩目的清晰与严谨，Pape 教授利用这项前所未有的研究打破了普遍持有的……
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这其实已经有人做过研究了：http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_to_Win:_The_Strategic_Log... http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Win-Strategic-Suicide-Terrorism/... 简而言之（TL;DR）：人们不会因为别人在宗教上不如自己保守，就对其实施神风敢死队式的自杀袭击……
This has actually been studied: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_to_Win:_The_Strategic_Log... http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Win-Strategic-Suicide-Terrorism/... TL;DR People do not run kamikaze attacks against other people for being less religiously conservative than they…
你可能会觉得罗伯特·A·佩普的《Dying to Win》是对你这篇帖子的有力反驳。> 尽管单个恐怖分子的动机非常多样，而且有些人确实是想把外国势力赶出圣地，但背后压倒性的主导力量……
You might find Robert A. Pape's "Dying to Win" an interesting refutation of your post. > While the motivation of individual terrorists is quite diverse, and some do actually want foreign influence out of holy sites, the overwhelming force behind…
宗教只是暴力的借口，从来不是最初的动机：http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pape#Dying_to_Win 人类的权力结构才是你该害怕的东西。位高权重的人总有动力去压制任何威胁到该权力的声音。
Religion is a pretense for violence, not the original motivation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pape#Dying_to_Win Human power structures are what you should fear. A human in a powerful position will be motivated to silence voices that threaten that power.
……可能全错了。也许本·拉登确实就是恨我们，也可能这根本不重要，因为他的小帝国是建立在另一套完全不同的叙事上的，而那套叙事能让人们相信为之牺牲是值得的。在《Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism》一书中，罗伯特·佩普指出，1980至2005年间所有的自杀式爆炸袭击，本质上都是民众遭遇占领的产物。我并不觉得真有人生来就渴望冲突……
…well be both wrong. Maybe bin laden did just hate us, and maybe that doesnt matter, because his little empire was built on a different message that he could convince people it was worth dying for. In Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism, Robert Pape shows that all suicide bombings from 1980 to 2005 were the result of a people being occupied. I am not convinced that anyone actually wants conflict,…