
钟形曲线
The bell curve
Richard J. Herrnstein、Charles A. Murray · 初版 1994 年
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为什么值得读
- 分析大规模人群数据与收入预测因子
- 提出关于智力与社会分层的颠覆性假设
- 直面极具争议的社会学与遗传学话题
Richard J. Herrnstein 与 Charles Murray 冲破新领域与旧禁忌,讲述了一个正在转型中的社会。在顶层,认知精英正在形成,通往名校与高薪职位的通行证不再是社会背景,而是高智商。在底层,下层阶级日益突出的共同特征是低智商,而非种族或社会劣势。The Bell Curve 阐述了关于那些多年来萦绕在人们心头、却被认为过于敏感而无法公开探讨的问题的科学认知现状——在这些
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……遗传学。比同一个国家不同族裔的孩子差距大得多?不对。比如非裔美国人的平均智商是 85,非常接近一个较富裕的非洲国家水平。去读读《钟形曲线》(The Bell Curve)吧。只有极度糟糕的家庭环境才会有重大影响,领养家庭中的兄弟姐妹的成就范围几乎涵盖了普通大众的全部区间。可能的解释是……
…genetics. much further separated than kids of different ethnicities in the same country No. African-Americans, for example, have an average IQ of 85, very much like an up-market African country. Go read The Bell Curve. only extremely bad families have a major environmental effect The siblings in the adoptive families have nearly the full range of accomplishments of the general public. The possible explanations are…
权威著作是《钟形曲线》(The Bell Curve)。他们研究了来自各个种族和亚文化的数万名美国人。他们发现,劳动收入唯一的显著预测指标是 IQ。种族、地域、父母收入等等都不重要……
The standard work is The Bell Curve. They studied many thousands of Americans of every race and subculture. They found that the only significant predictor of earned income was IQ. Race, location, parental income, and so forth did not matter…
……展现得如此出色。[1]:比如看看史蒂芬·平克的《白板》(The Blank Slate)。然后,一旦你克服了膝跳反应式的“这太种族主义了!!!”反射,去读读看——我是说真正带着理解力去读——赫恩斯坦和默里的《钟形曲线》(The Bell Curve)。或许还可以加上一点卡瓦利-斯福扎的观点(通过史蒂夫·塞勒了解,http://www.vdare.com/articles/052400-cavalli-sforzas-ink-clo...)。之后你基本上读什么都能融会贯通了……
…so ably demonstrated. [1]: See, for example, The Blank Slate by Steven Pinker. Then, once you get over your knee-jerk "That's racist!!!" reflex, take a look—I mean actually read for comprehension—The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray. Maybe add a little Cavalli-Sforza (via Steve Sailer) to the mix (http://www.vdare.com/articles/052400-cavalli-sforzas-ink-clo...). You can then graduate to basically anything…
我说的是这类书:- 詹姆斯·戴尔·戴维森的《主权个体》(The Sovereign Individual) - 哈里·布朗的《如何在不自由的世界寻找自由》(How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World) - 查尔斯·A·默里与理查德·赫恩斯坦的《钟形曲线》(The Bell Curve)。那些会让你陷入深思“嗯……”的书。可以是关于政府、金钱、社会的等等。跟当今那些“每周工作4小时”的垃圾完全不一样
I am talking about books like: - The Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson - How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World by Harry Browne - The Bell Curve by Charles A. Murray and Richard Herrnstein Books that make you go "hum....". It could be about Government, Money, Society, etc. Something very different from the modern-day "4 hour work week" garbage
就目前所能确定的来看,默里完全是出于善意。《钟形曲线》的核心论点——即来自世界不同地区的人在许多不同属性上的分布差异巨大——本来就是(或者理应是)完全毫无争议的,这与几乎所有的科学……相吻合。
Murray was as far as can be determined acting in good faith. The general argument of the Bell Curve, that people from different parts of the world have wildly different distributions on many different attributes, is (or ought to be) completely non-controversial, consistent with almost all scientific…
……例如这些测试的设计初衷,是为了找出那些来自较贫困和更边缘化背景、但依然非常聪明且只要给机会就能有所建树的学生。这些在《钟形曲线》里都有涉及,尽管有些教授认为默里夸大了确定性的程度,但没人证明他的数据是假的,也没人证明结论是错的。信不信由你,我以前其实要……得多。
…tests for instance were designed to find students from poorer and more marginalized backgrounds who nonetheless were still very smart and could achieve if given the chance. This is all covered in the Bell Curve, and well some professors thought that Murray exaggerated the degree of certainty, no one showed that his data was false, nor that the conclusion was false. Believe it or not, I used to be much more…