有时是一种伟大的念头
Sometimes a Great Notion
Ken Kesey · 初版 1964 年
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为什么值得读
- 探讨的宏大主题被读者认为可媲美尤利西斯
- 创作节奏极其迅捷，被视作被低估的杰作
Sometimes a Great notion 是一部关于 Stamper 家族的书。这是一群坚韧不拔的硬汉，在 Stamper 家最小儿子的窗外遐想与一时兴起下，不断被推向西方。最终，他们无法再往西走，止步于俄勒冈海岸一条汹涌的河流旁。Hank 和父亲力排众议经营着一家伐木场，抵制工会化。书中刻画了 Biggie Newton 等鲜活的人物，最终小儿子 Leland 在制毒实验室爆炸后归来。Hank 与 Leland 为一个女人大打出手，而 Leland 也在其中蜕变成长。
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凡事都要适度。肯·克西写过两本我最喜欢的书，《飞越疯人院》（1962）和《有时候是个好想法》（1964），但那之后他就基本没写出过什么像样的东西了。我敢肯定，是他后来过度沉迷迷幻药，彻底毁掉了他创作伟大文学作品的能力。
Everything in moderation. Ken Kesey wrote two of my favorite books "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" (1962) and "Sometimes a Great Notion" (1964), but basically produced nothing of much merit after that. I'm convinced that his subsequent over-indulgence in psychedelics destroyed his ability to produce great literature.
……詹姆斯·C·斯科特的《逃避统治的艺术》 - 乔治·帕克的《解构之局》 - 霍华德·津恩的《美国人民的历史》 虚构类 - 约翰·斯坦贝克的《伊甸之东》 - 肯·克西的《有时候是个好想法》 - 陀思妥耶夫斯基的《卡拉马佐夫兄弟》 编注：调整了排版
…*The Art of Not Being Governed* by James C. Scott - *The Unwinding* by George Packer - *People's History of the United States* by Howard Zinn Fiction - *East of Eden* by John Steinbeck - *Sometimes a Great Notion* by Ken Kesey - *The Brothers Karamazov* by Fyodor Dostoyevsky edit: formatting
最近 HN 上老有人发关于苹果审查插图版《尤利西斯》的文章。乔伊斯花了 7 年才写完《尤利西斯》。而肯·克西大概只用了 3 个月就写出了我很喜欢的《有时候是个好想法》。让我触动的是，克西探讨的有些主题和乔伊斯不谋而合。我认为这是一部被低估的杰作。
Articles about Apple censoring the illustrated Ulysses have made it to HN lately. It took Joyce 7 years to write Ulysses. Ken Kesey wrote Sometimes a Great Notion, a favorite of mine, in about 3 months. It struck me that Kesey touches on some of the same themes as Joyce. I consider it an overlooked masterpiece.
……有史以来最棒的科幻/奇幻作品，尽管我也极喜欢洛伊斯·莫马斯特·布乔德（有三个世界可选，每个世界都包含了许多或多或少独立的长篇和中篇），她同样很棒。再补充几本：肯·克西的《有时候是个好想法》。维拉·凯瑟的《我的安东妮亚》。库尔特·冯内古特的《蓝胡子》。
…best sci-fi/fantasy ever written, as much as I love Lois McMaster Bujold (three worlds to choose from, each offering many more or less independent novels and novellas), who is also great. A few more: Sometimes a Great Notion, Ken Kesey. My Antonia, Willa Cather. Bluebeard, Kurt Vonnegut.
乔伊斯每天写一页，足足花了七年才写完《尤利西斯》。这书读起来可不容易。它是一本伟大的书。另一方面，肯·克西在三个月内写出了《有时候是个好想法》，在我看来，它在很多方面都能与《尤利西斯》媲美。这也是一部伟大、却被大家忽视了的小说。
It took Joyce seven years to write Ulysses at a page per day. It's not an easy read. It is a great book. On the other hand Ken Kesey wrote Sometimes a Great Notion in three months, and to my mind it compares favorably to Ulysses in many ways. It is also a great, though overlooked, novel.
啊太赞了，我也得抽空把《叶之屋》补了，我是非常迷那种非传统结构故事的。克西的《有时候是个好想法》是我的最爱；它是从多个第一人称视角叙述的，转换非常快，视角切换是通过把特定讲述者的文本用斜体、括号标出来，再加上……
Ah nice, I need to do the same with House of Leaves, I'm a big fan of stories with unconventional structuring. Sometimes a Great Notion by Kesey is my favorite; it's told from multiple first-person perspectives that shift pretty rapidly, where the shifts are indicated by having a particular speakers' text italicized, in parenthesis, with…