致命海岸
The fatal shore
Robert Hughes · 初版 1986 年
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极其丰富且详尽地记录了第一批抵达 Australia 的白人定居者，以及他们抵达后的所见所闻。引人入胜。
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The fatal shore
Robert Hughes · 初版 1986 年
极其丰富且详尽地记录了第一批抵达 Australia 的白人定居者，以及他们抵达后的所见所闻。引人入胜。
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……那些因为像偷窃这种鸡毛蒜皮的小罪就被流放的人。澳大利亚殖民真正的幕后推手是当时英国的人口过剩，而不是为了处理什么顽固犯罪分子。《致命的海滩》（The Fatal Shore）是一部通俗好读的记录这场社会实验的历史书。另外还要注意，这个“初生的自由社会”直到近代都还对原住民犯下过可怕的暴行。
…people who were transported for trifling offenses like theft. The real driver behind Australian settlement was overpopulation in Britain, not the need to get rid of some hardened criminal class. The Fatal Shore is a good, readable history of this social experiment. Note also that this "budding free society" was responsible for horrible atrocities against the native population until fairly recent times.
……没被关进监狱？天呐，我们现在的无指控无限期拘禁已经够多了，拜托别再火上浇油了。曾几何时，人们的“数据阴影”真的非常稀薄。在《致命的海滩》——一本关于澳大利亚极其精彩的历史书——里，他们聊到了乔治王时代的英格兰治安。抓捕罪犯主要靠口头相貌描述：官方的犯罪记录……
…not in prison? Oh, man, we've got enough indefinite imprisonment without charges going on as it is. Please don't encourage it. Once upon a time, people's "data shadows" were very thin indeed. In The Fatal Shore, a truly awesome history book about Australia, they talked about policing in Georgian England. The identification of criminals relied primarily on verbal descriptions of their looks: Official crime records…
我在《致命的海滩》[1] 里读到过同样的故事，据我所知这是一本考据非常详实、基于史实描写早期流放犯历史的书（虽然我不记得最初的成功率有低至 40%，不过确实很低）。[1] http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Shore-Epic-Australias-Founding/d...
I read the same story in The Fatal Shore [1] which to my knowledge is a very well researched/factual book on early convict history (though I don't recall the success rate being initially as low as 40%, it was low though). [1] http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Shore-Epic-Australias-Founding/d...
关于 1788 年以后的澳大利亚历史，Robert Hughes 写的《致命的海滩》（The Fatal Shore）非常值得一读。它还深入剖析了英国人对犯罪的态度，这种态度在今天的政府政策等方面仍能看到蛛丝马迹。
For Australian history from 1788 onwards, The Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes is an excellent read. It also gives a good insight to British attitudes to criminality, of which traces can still be seen today in government policy, etc.
Robert Hughes 写的《致命的海滩》（The Fatal Shore）。极其精彩地还原了澳大利亚的建国史。一篇书评：https://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Personal/Books/Hughes-Fatal-Shore/ 阅读时可以思考的问题：为什么不是……
The Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes. An absolutely brilliant account of the founding of Australia. A review: https://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Personal/Books/Hughes-Fatal-Shore/ Questions to think about as you read: Why weren't…
你应该去读读《致命的海滩》（The Fatal Shore）。
You should read The Fatal Shore.