（对我来说）了解他思考脉络的绝佳入门读物是 David Cayley 写的《Ivan Illich in Conversation》[0]。基本上就是一本成书篇幅的访谈录。虽然我觉得他确实很有意思，但有一点挺让人恼火的：他自己拿着博士学位，却对“传统”学校体系大加批判。……
A great introduction to his lines of thinking was (to me) "Ivan Illich in Conversation" by David Cayley [0]. Essentially a book-length interview. While I find him truly interesting, there is an annoyance: he is strongly critical about "traditional" school system, while holding a PhD himself.…
我想一个绝佳的切入点会是 David Cayley 写的《Ivan Illich in Conversation》，这基本上是对 Illich 的一次详尽访谈，几乎涵盖了他各个阶段的思想。
I guess a great starting point would be "Ivan Illich in Conversation" by David Cayley, which is basically an exhaustive interview with Illich that touches on almost every different stage of his ideas.
（对我来说）了解他思考脉络的绝佳入门读物是 David Cayley 写的《Ivan Illich in Conversation》[0]。基本上就是一本成书篇幅的访谈录。虽然我觉得他确实很有意思，但有一点挺让人恼火的：他自己拿着博士学位，却对“传统”学校体系大加批判。……
A great introduction to his lines of thinking was (to me) "Ivan Illich in Conversation" by David Cayley [0]. Essentially a book-length interview. While I find him truly interesting, there is an annoyance: he is strongly critical about "traditional" school system, while holding a PhD himself.…
我想一个绝佳的切入点会是 David Cayley 写的《Ivan Illich in Conversation》，这基本上是对 Illich 的一次详尽访谈，几乎涵盖了他各个阶段的思想。
I guess a great starting point would be "Ivan Illich in Conversation" by David Cayley, which is basically an exhaustive interview with Illich that touches on almost every different stage of his ideas.