第三种黑猩猩
The Third Chimpanzee
Jared Diamond · 初版 1991 年
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为什么值得读
- 从抚育成本与进化博弈探讨人类的配偶制度
- 深入剖析农业兴起对人类寿命与社会的重塑
- 信息密度极大且能显著拓展认知视野
探讨究竟是那不到百分之二的基因差异使人类区别于猿类。
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The Third Chimpanzee
Jared Diamond · 初版 1991 年
探讨究竟是那不到百分之二的基因差异使人类区别于猿类。
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……也一样。哪怕你拿出了证据，去探索事物为何会变成今天这副模样依然是件很有意思的事。至少我是这么觉得的。你读过贾雷德·戴蒙德（Jared Diamond）的《性趣何来》（Why is sex fun）或者《第三种黑猩猩》（The Third Chimpanzee）吗？虽然有些情况下存在好几种不同的理论，但我并不觉得他关于两性竞争的观点属于那种想当然的编故事（just-so stories）。我很想听听具体的反例……
…as well. Even if you provide evidence, it would still be interesting to discover a reason for the things being like they are. At least I think so. Have you read Jared Diamond "Why is sex fun" or "The Third Chimpanzee"? I didn't have the impression that what he said about the competitions of the sexes were just-so stories, although in some cases there were several different theories. I would be interested in examples…
我不太明白你说的“没有女性的影响”是什么意思。在人类社会中，半一夫一妻制的结合是因为抚养人类幼崽需要付出极高昂的代价（包括时间和精力）。去读读贾雷德·戴蒙德的《第三种黑猩猩》吧，里面全面讨论了人类一夫一妻制的光谱——我之所以说“半一夫一妻制”，是因为出轨在所有人种中都很普遍，而且他在书里给出了发生这种情况的潜在原因。
I'm not sure what you mean by "without female influence." In humans, semi-monogamous coupling is an a result of the extraordinary expense (in time and energy) of raising a human child. Read The Third Chimpanzee by Jared Diamond for a full discussion on how the spectrum of human monogamy - I say "semi-monogamous" since cheating is prevalent in all humans, and he provides potential reasons for why this is so.
去读读贾雷德·戴蒙德的《枪炮、病菌与钢铁》和《第三种黑猩猩》吧。他花了很多篇幅讲农业的兴起。当我们看到平均寿命在不断增长时，我们看到的仅仅是已知文明开端以来的寿命……
Read "Guns, Germs and Steel" and "The Third Chimpanzee" by Jared Diamond. He talks a lot about the rise of agriculture. When we look at how the average lifespan is increasing, we're only looking at the lifespan since the start of civilization as we know…
这正好是个推荐贾雷德·戴蒙德的《为什么性是好玩的？》（Why is sex fun?）一书的好机会。http://www.amazon.com/Why-Sex-Fun-Evolution-Sexuality/dp/046...（或者看起来《第三种黑猩猩》也行，有些书评人说《第三种黑猩猩》涵盖的内容比这本书更广）。
This seems like a good opportunity to recommend the book "Why is sex fun?" by Jared Diamond.http://www.amazon.com/Why-Sex-Fun-Evolution-Sexuality/dp/046... (Or apparently "The Third Chimpanzee", some reviewers claim that is a superset of the book).
* 《宿醉：禁酒令的兴衰》（Last Call） * 《信息简史》（The Information） * 《寻果记》（The Fruit Hunters） * 《第三种黑猩猩》 凭记忆想到的这几本信息密度都相当高，因为我记得读完它们之后，我对某些之前不太了解的领域有了相当多的认识
* Last Call The Rise and Fall of Prohibition * The Information, a theory, a flood * The Fruit Hunters * The Third Chimpanzee Off the top of my head were pretty information dense in the sense that I remember walking away from them knowing a good deal more about something I didn't previously
虽然内容稍微有点过时了，但任何对“已灭绝的人类物种”或原始人类感兴趣的人，都应该读读贾雷德·戴蒙德的书《第三种黑猩猩》，这本书讲的是把我们与其他大型灵长类动物（包括另外两种黑猩猩）区分开来的微小基因差异和巨大的文化差异……
It's a little outdated, but anyone interested in "extinct human species", or proto-humans, should read Jared Diamond's book "The Third Chimpanzee", which is about the small genetic and vast cultural differences that separate us from other large primate, including the two other types of chimp...