……极度、极度建议你选 Gregory Hays 的译本(http://amzn.to/XQSimT)!我有一本 Long 的译本,但完全没把原著的味道翻出来。如果你想更深入研究,可以考虑 Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡:马可·奥勒留的沉思录》(The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius)- http://amzn.to/YuWyvh 我也很喜欢 YouTube 上这些关于《沉思录》的讲座:http://youtu.be/nLD09Qa3kMk
…highly, highly advise you to go with the Gregory Hays' translation (http://amzn.to/XQSimT)! I have a copy of Long's and it doesn't do it justice. If you want to dive deeper consider Pierre Hadot's 'The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius" - http://amzn.to/YuWyvh I am also fond of these YouTube lectures on the Meditations: http://youtu.be/nLD09Qa3kMk
……这三者。如果你对上述内容的现代解读感兴趣,有几个不错的切入点:William Irvine 的《像哲学家一样生活》(A Guide to the Good Life,大部分内容挺不错的)或者 Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡》(The Inner Citadel,专门研究《沉思录》)。Ryan Holiday 也写过一本叫《障碍就是道路》(The Obstacle Is The Way)的书,不过说实话,我没像喜欢上面列出的那些那样喜欢它。我个人最爱的一本宝藏是,……
…all three. If you're interested in more modern interpretations of the above, a couple good jumping off points would be A Guide to the Good Life by William Irvine (which was mostly pretty good) or The Inner Citadel by Pierre Hadot (which studies Meditations). Ryan Holiday also has a book called The Obstacle Is The Way, though I didn't enjoy it as much as any listed above, to be honest. A personal favorite gem which,…
……马可:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLD09Qa3kMk 我真心觉得你看完这个后会对《沉思录》有全新的认识。另外,Pierre Hadot 在《内在城堡》(The Inner Citadel)里对它做了非常出色(但偏学术性)的剖析。至于爱比克泰德(Epictetus),我每次介绍他都会讲越战战俘 James Stockdale 的故事,他在某种程度上就是依靠斯多葛主义原则熬过了遭受的酷刑。他写道……
…Marcus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLD09Qa3kMk I truly think you'll see the Meditations in a different way after watching this. Also, Pierre Hadot has a very good (but scholarly) analysis on it in The Inner Citadel. And for Epictetus, I always introduce him with the story of the Vietnam prisoner of war James Stockdale who in a way relied on stoic principles to endure the tortures he was inflicted. He wrote and…
我只读非虚构,主要是哲学类。我随手想到的几本书:* Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡》(The Inner Citadel)/《作为生活方式的哲学》(Philosophy as a Way of Life) * 柏拉图对话录(前面有人提过其中几篇,但他们的书单里漏了《理想国》) * 爱比克泰德(《论说集》和《手册》) * 《……
I only read non-fiction; mostly philosophy. Here are some books off the top of my head: * The Inner Citadel/Philosophy as a Way of Life by Pierre Hadot * Plato's dialogues (someone already mentioned a few of them, but the Republic was missing from their list). * Epictetus (Discourses and Enchiridion) * The…
……如果你喜欢它,再去研究其他译本也不迟。(A.S.L Farquharson 花了一辈子时间翻译《沉思录》,里面还附带评注。我偶尔会查阅这个版本。)• Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡:马可·奥勒留的沉思录》(The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius)。这本书一定要在你至少读过一遍马可·奥勒留的某个译本之后再读。这是对奥勒留作品极具深度的剖析——Hadot 研究了……
…If you like it, then you can research other translations. (A.S.L Farquharson spent a lifetime on his translation of the Meditations; it also has commentary. I sometimes consult this edition.) • The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, by Pierre Hadot. This needs to be read only after you've read at least one translation of Marcus Aurelius This is a fantastic dissection of Aurelius' work—Hadot studied…
如果你想读懂《沉思录》和马可·奥勒留,你应该去读 Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡》(The Inner Citadel)。比如,他为什么用希腊语写作、这本书的体裁形式、为何反复说车轱辘话等等,背后都是有充分原因的。
If you want to understand Meditations and Marcus Aurelius, you should read The Inner Citadel by Pierre Hadot. For instance, there are good reasons for his writing in Greek, for the format of the book, for the repetitiveness, etc.
……极度、极度建议你选 Gregory Hays 的译本(http://amzn.to/XQSimT)!我有一本 Long 的译本,但完全没把原著的味道翻出来。如果你想更深入研究,可以考虑 Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡:马可·奥勒留的沉思录》(The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius)- http://amzn.to/YuWyvh 我也很喜欢 YouTube 上这些关于《沉思录》的讲座:http://youtu.be/nLD09Qa3kMk
…highly, highly advise you to go with the Gregory Hays' translation (http://amzn.to/XQSimT)! I have a copy of Long's and it doesn't do it justice. If you want to dive deeper consider Pierre Hadot's 'The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius" - http://amzn.to/YuWyvh I am also fond of these YouTube lectures on the Meditations: http://youtu.be/nLD09Qa3kMk
……这三者。如果你对上述内容的现代解读感兴趣,有几个不错的切入点:William Irvine 的《像哲学家一样生活》(A Guide to the Good Life,大部分内容挺不错的)或者 Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡》(The Inner Citadel,专门研究《沉思录》)。Ryan Holiday 也写过一本叫《障碍就是道路》(The Obstacle Is The Way)的书,不过说实话,我没像喜欢上面列出的那些那样喜欢它。我个人最爱的一本宝藏是,……
…all three. If you're interested in more modern interpretations of the above, a couple good jumping off points would be A Guide to the Good Life by William Irvine (which was mostly pretty good) or The Inner Citadel by Pierre Hadot (which studies Meditations). Ryan Holiday also has a book called The Obstacle Is The Way, though I didn't enjoy it as much as any listed above, to be honest. A personal favorite gem which,…
……马可:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLD09Qa3kMk 我真心觉得你看完这个后会对《沉思录》有全新的认识。另外,Pierre Hadot 在《内在城堡》(The Inner Citadel)里对它做了非常出色(但偏学术性)的剖析。至于爱比克泰德(Epictetus),我每次介绍他都会讲越战战俘 James Stockdale 的故事,他在某种程度上就是依靠斯多葛主义原则熬过了遭受的酷刑。他写道……
…Marcus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLD09Qa3kMk I truly think you'll see the Meditations in a different way after watching this. Also, Pierre Hadot has a very good (but scholarly) analysis on it in The Inner Citadel. And for Epictetus, I always introduce him with the story of the Vietnam prisoner of war James Stockdale who in a way relied on stoic principles to endure the tortures he was inflicted. He wrote and…
我只读非虚构,主要是哲学类。我随手想到的几本书:* Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡》(The Inner Citadel)/《作为生活方式的哲学》(Philosophy as a Way of Life) * 柏拉图对话录(前面有人提过其中几篇,但他们的书单里漏了《理想国》) * 爱比克泰德(《论说集》和《手册》) * 《……
I only read non-fiction; mostly philosophy. Here are some books off the top of my head: * The Inner Citadel/Philosophy as a Way of Life by Pierre Hadot * Plato's dialogues (someone already mentioned a few of them, but the Republic was missing from their list). * Epictetus (Discourses and Enchiridion) * The…
……如果你喜欢它,再去研究其他译本也不迟。(A.S.L Farquharson 花了一辈子时间翻译《沉思录》,里面还附带评注。我偶尔会查阅这个版本。)• Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡:马可·奥勒留的沉思录》(The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius)。这本书一定要在你至少读过一遍马可·奥勒留的某个译本之后再读。这是对奥勒留作品极具深度的剖析——Hadot 研究了……
…If you like it, then you can research other translations. (A.S.L Farquharson spent a lifetime on his translation of the Meditations; it also has commentary. I sometimes consult this edition.) • The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, by Pierre Hadot. This needs to be read only after you've read at least one translation of Marcus Aurelius This is a fantastic dissection of Aurelius' work—Hadot studied…
如果你想读懂《沉思录》和马可·奥勒留,你应该去读 Pierre Hadot 的《内在城堡》(The Inner Citadel)。比如,他为什么用希腊语写作、这本书的体裁形式、为何反复说车轱辘话等等,背后都是有充分原因的。
If you want to understand Meditations and Marcus Aurelius, you should read The Inner Citadel by Pierre Hadot. For instance, there are good reasons for his writing in Greek, for the format of the book, for the repetitiveness, etc.