黑猩猩的政治
Chimpanzee Politics
Frans de Waal · 初版 1982 年
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为什么值得读
- 直观揭示灵长动物对等级与特权的争夺
- 帮助理解人类社会中对地位与面子的渴求
- 行文极具说服力且引人入胜
“这部关于荷兰 Arnhem 大型动物园黑猩猩群落中社交拉拢、暗中弄权与达成共识的非凡记录引人注目。”“在这一修订版中——增添了全新的彩色照片图集以及全新的序言与结语——de Waal 扩充并更新了他关于 Arnhem 群落及其持续政治动荡的故事。我们得以了解许多令人难忘的角色的命运，并结识该群落现今的领袖及其盟友。新版依然是一部详尽且极其引人入胜的记录——展现了性竞争
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……我为它掏的 72 欧元）• 萨波尔斯基的《行为》（Behave）和《斑马为什么不得胃溃疡》（我在这个链接 [1] 里写了我推《行为》的理由）• 约书亚·格林的《道德部落》（Moral Tribes）• 罗伯特·阿克塞尔罗德的《合作的进化》• 弗朗斯·德瓦尔的《黑猩猩的政治》• 约翰·胡伊青加的《游戏的人》• 乔治·莱考夫和马克·约翰逊的《我们赖以生存的隐喻》• 迈克尔·托马塞洛的《成为人类》（Becoming Human）• 至于斯多葛主义，……
…72 euros I paid for it) • Behave and Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers by Sapolsky (I wrote my "why" for Behave here[1]) • Moral Tribes by Joshua Greene • The Evolution of Cooperation by Robert Axelrod • Chimpanzee Politics by Frans de Waal • Homo Ludens: A Study of the Play-Element in Culture by Johan Huizinga • Metaphors We Live By, George Lakoff and Mark Johnson • Becoming Human by Michael Tomasello • For Stoicism,…
……对于身居高位的虚张声势，人类跟黑猩猩一模一样。在我看来，司机的这种行为就是在宣示自己的“优越感”，把“下等人”打回“原形”。要是感兴趣的话，德瓦尔的《黑猩猩的政治》真的让我大开眼界。好大一部分人类行为，直接从“他脑子有毛病吧”变成了“啊，行吧，灵长类动物嘛，刻在 DNA 里了”。
…performance of being highly placed that chimps are. I read this sort of behavior as the driver asserting his "superiority", putting "lesser" people in "their place". If you're interested, de Waal's "Chimpanzee Politics" was a real eye-opener for me. There was a big chunk of human behavior that went from "what is wrong with him" to "ah, ok, primates gonna prime".
这两者并不能完全割裂开。对地位的算计是人类的基本行为，社会系统往往都会走向阶级和层级分化。（想深入了解的话，德瓦尔的《黑猩猩的政治》和约翰斯通的《即兴》（Impro）都很好读而且非常有说服力。再想想看，相比相对收入差距，绝对收入差距对幸福感的影响其实更小，这在经济学上简直不可理喻……
The two aren't totally separable. Status calculations are a fundamental human behavior, and social systems tend to move in directions of class and hierarchy. (For more on this, the books Chimpanzee Politics by DeWaal and Impro by Johnstone are readable and very compelling. Consider also that absolute salary differences matter less for happiness than relative salary differences, which is economically insane…
……全看你怎么做。人类从根本上就是社交动物，大脑里天生就刻着对地位的追求。作为一个书呆子/nerd，我早年基本对此毫无察觉。有两本书真正帮我理解了这在人类身上是怎么运作的：德瓦尔的《黑猩猩的政治》和约翰斯通的《即兴》（尤其是讲地位交易的那一节）。如果你在指出别人错误的同时让他丢了面子，他就会降低对你的信任。比如，当众证明……
…all in how you do it. Humans are fundamentally social animals, hardwired for status. As a nerd that was mainly invisible to me early on. Two books that really helped me see how it works in humans are Chimpanzee Politics by deWaal and Impro by Johnstone (in particular the section on status transactions). If you correct somebody in a way that costs them face, they will trust you less. E.g., publicly demonstrating that…
因为争吵往往最终会变成社会地位的代理人战争，而我们的神经系统生来就吃这一套。在这点上真正让我开窍的书是德瓦尔的《黑猩猩的政治》。而且，可能同样重要的，还有一本关于表演的书：约翰斯通的《即兴》（Impro）。
Because arguments often end up being proxy battles for social status, and we're hardwired for those. The book that really opened my eyes on this was de Waal's Chimpanzee Politics. And, perhaps just as importantly, a book about acting: Johnstone's Impro.