About Face
About face
David H. Hackworth · 初版 1989 年
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- 深刻剖析军方高层政治领导与轮换体制的弊端
- 从一线实战角度揭露美军在越战中的致命弱点
- 提供对现代军队运作与领导力的批判性审视
一部从朝鲜战争到越南战争期间步兵基层指挥官视角审视US Army的震撼之作。Hackworth是陆军中获得勋章最多的军人之一，他对该体制中存在的弊病毫不掩饰。
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About face
David H. Hackworth · 初版 1989 年
一部从朝鲜战争到越南战争期间步兵基层指挥官视角审视US Army的震撼之作。Hackworth是陆军中获得勋章最多的军人之一，他对该体制中存在的弊病毫不掩饰。
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同意“受到政治领导层的牵制”这个说法，但我对那段时期美军的研究表明，政治领导层也是这堆烂摊子中早期到中期的一个极大诱因（哈克沃思写的《About Face》是了解这一点的一本很好的入门书）。我可以列举很多细节，但这儿大概不是讨论这个的地方。不过有个涉及领导层的大问题倒是很切题：那就是6个月的轮调期……
Agreed on "hampered by political leadership", but my studies of the US Army in the period tells me it also was a very large factor in the early to middle part of the mess (About Face by Hackworth would be a good first book to read on this). I could go into many details but this is probably not the forum for that. One big leadership one, though, is apropos: the 6 month tour of duty…
如果你喜欢那部作品，你应该读读大卫·哈克沃思的《About Face》。我还没读过，但我是通过 Jocko Podcast 听说的。
If you like that you should read "About Face" by David Hackworth. I have not read it but I've hear about it via the Jocko Podcast.
既然有人提到了《Don't Make Me Think》，那我也来加上《About Face》（我买的是2.0版，但听说3.0版更棒）http://www.amazon.com/About-Face-Essentials-Interaction-Desi... 以及《设计心理学》（Design of Everyday Things）http://www.amazon.com/Design-Everyday-Things-Donald-Norman/d...
Since Don't Make Me Think already came up, going to add About Face (have 2.0 but heard 3.0 is even better) http://www.amazon.com/About-Face-Essentials-Interaction-Desi... and Design of Everyday Things http://www.amazon.com/Design-Everyday-Things-Donald-Norman/d...
我读过《战争是一场骗局》（War is a Racket）。那是篇极棒的文章，提出了我们所有人都应该思考的问题。我还读过《亮丽的谎言》（A Bright Shining Lie）、《About Face》、《出类拔萃之辈》（The Best and The Brightest）以及其他批评军方的书 [1, 2, 3]。就像我上条评论说的，我对军方有很多不满，但当社会的精英阶层……我也同样感到担忧。
I’ve read War is a Racket. It’s a great piece and raises issues we all should think about. I also read A Bright Shining Lie, About Face, The Best and The Brightest and other books critical of the military [1, 2, 3]. Like I said in my previous comment, I have many issues with the military, but I’m also concerned when the elite of society…
我推荐陆军上校哈克沃思写的《About Face》和《红色风暴》（Red Storm Rising）
I recommend About Face by Army Colonel Hackworth and Red Storm Rising
……查了他的日程表，发现了对不上的地方。看来他就胡吹乱侃地开了几次会，结论完全是瞎编出来的。读读比方说完全无关的哈克沃思写的《About Face》，能更多了解他在越南时露出的马脚。我对单兵负重论点的反驳是，这种权衡走得太极端了，比如我读过一些机枪手（SAW operators）的自述，他们真的希望弹药口径……
…his appointments calendar and noticed the discrepancy. It appears he did a limited number of bullshitting sessions and pulled his results out of his ass. Read e.g. the completely unrelated Hackworth About Face for a bit more on his feet of clay, in Vietnam. My counterpoint to the soldier's load argument is that the tradeoff went too far, e.g. I've read some accounts of SAW operators who really wished the round…