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• yboris · 2022 年

  我读了麦卡斯基尔（MacAskill）的《我们欠未来什么》（What We Owe The Future）——书写得很棒，论证也很有说服力。推荐你去读读。我怀疑正在发生的情况是，“老好人/行善者”（正如研究所表明的）经常遭到别人的攻击，因为那些……

  I read MacAskill's What We Owe The Future - it's a great book, and a compelling argument. I recommend you read it. What I suspect might be happening is that "do gooders" (as research has shown) are often attacked by others because those that…

• Amorymeltzer · 2023 年

  在（非常出色的）《我们欠未来什么》（What We Owe the Future）一书中，威廉·麦卡斯基尔（William MacAskill）探讨了几种考量和权衡不同生命价值的方式，其中一种就是计算神经元数量。我现在手头没这本书，但根据我当时做的笔记：>There……

  In the (excellent) What We Owe the Future, William MacAskill discusses some ways of considering and weighing values on different lives, one of which was counting neurons. I don't have the book in front of me, but from my notes at the time: >There…

• bricemo · 2022 年

  ……几千年前的人类所做的决定，使得我们今天的生活成为可能。难道你不为自己有机会存在并享受自己的人生感到庆幸吗？我强烈推荐伊恩·麦卡斯基尔最近出的书《我们欠未来什么》（What We Owe the Future）。他提出了一个令人信服的理性论点：给未来世代打折，跟给当今在物理距离上遥远、正在受苦的人打折一样，都是毫无道理的。

  …humans thousands of years ago made decisions that make our lives today possible. Aren’t you glad that you had the chance to exist and enjoy your own life? I highly recommend Ian McCaskill‘s recent book “ what we owe the future.” He makes a compelling rational argument that it makes no less sense to discount future generations than it does to discount physically distant people who are suffering today.

• gruez · 2023 年

  ……多吃蔬菜少吃面包是好的。等会儿，要推翻关于营养学的“传统认知”，难道只要搬出“很多营养学家”和“新研究”就行了？像《悬崖》（The Precipice）或《我们欠未来什么》（What We Owe the Future）这种经过充分调研的书在这里够用吗？我敢肯定，在所有有效利他主义者（effective altruists）里，你随便都能找到“许多人”来支持他们的主张吧？

  …vegetables and less bread is good. Hold on, all it takes to turn over "conventional wisdom" on nutrition is "many nutritionists" and "new research"? Does some well researched books like "The Precipice" or "What We Owe the Future" suffice here? I'm sure that among all the effective altruists out there, you can find among them "many" to support their claim?

• matthewdgreen · 2023 年

  ……过去几年里，EA（有效利他主义）社区最显眼的公众“代言人”一直是威廉·麦卡斯基尔（William MacAskill），他靠着大金主资助的新闻发布巡回宣传，通过他的新书《我们欠未来什么》（What We Owe the Future）推广长期主义（longtermism）理念。对大多数普通大众来说，这大概是他们第一次接触到 EA 的整体概念。如果你不支持麦卡斯基尔对 EA 未来的构想，这完全没问题。但要是假装它……

  …past couple of years the most prominent public “face” of the EA community has been William MacAskill, who went on a major donor-funded press tour to promote his ideas on longtermism through his book “What We Owe the Future.” For most of the general public, this was probably their first encounter with the entire concept of EA. It is perfectly fine if you don’t support MacAskill’s vision for EA’s future. But to pretend it…

• rcoveson · 2023 年

  ……EA 的代言人。我觉得如果你看搜索数据就会发现，在新书巡展期间，彼得·辛格（Peter Singer）的人气仅仅是从麦卡斯基尔的约100倍变成了大约10倍。EA 的出现比《我们欠未来什么》（What We Owe the Future）里的观点早了许多年。像 GiveWell 这样关注当下的慈善机构，在2022年底可能被那本书抢了一两轮新闻周期的风头。这很正常。但那种认为那本书或其作者……

  …the face of EA. I think if you look at search data, you'll find that Peter Singer's popularity merely went from being ~100x MacAskill's to more like 10x during the book tour. EA predates the notions in What We Owe the Future by many years. Present-focused charities like GiveWell were perhaps overshadowed in popularity by that book for a news cycle or two in late 2022. It happens. But the notion that that book or its author…

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