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• egypturnash · 2022 年

  ……如果敢跟 Ticketmaster 以外的任何人合作，那你就别想订到任何跟 TM 合作的演出了，而后者基本上是“特么所有的人”。这里面的门道还有很多，多克托罗和吉布林最近出的那本《Chokepoint Capitalism》（关卡资本主义）有两章非常详尽地剖析了这整套机制。https://craphound.com/chokepoint/2022/09/27/twitch-does-a-ch...

  …works with anyone besides Ticketmaster then you won't be able to book any acts that do work with TM, which is "pretty much fucking everyone". There's a lot more to this, Doctorow and Giblin's recent book "Chokepoint Capitalism" has a couple of chapters that examine this whole setup in great detail. https://craphound.com/chokepoint/2022/09/27/twitch-does-a-ch...

• dredmorbius · 2022 年

  ……选择、竞争、新创新等等。目前的美国反垄断法学理论基本上忽视了这一点，因为遵循的是伯克 / 波斯纳 / 迪雷克托（全都是芝加哥学派）的传统。看看科利·多克托罗的新书《Chokepoint Capitalism》给出的全新视角：<https://doctorow.medium.com/what-is-chokepoint-capitalism-b8...>

  …choice, competition, new innovation, and the like. Current US antitrust legal theory mostly ignores this based on the Bork / Posner / Director (all Chicago School) tradition. See Cory Doctorow's new book Chokepoint Capitalism for a revised take: <https://doctorow.medium.com/what-is-chokepoint-capitalism-b8...>

• jrochkind1 · 2023 年

  ……至少一开始是这样——但总体来说核心就是套牢消费者，最终再狠狠榨取他们，我认为这对整个“社会”没有好处，而社会当然会反过来影响“消费者”。吉布林和多克托罗的《Chokepoint Capitalism》很值得一读。https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/710957/chokepoint-c...

  …least initially -- but generally the point is locking in consumers to eventually squeeze them, and I don't think it's great for _society_, which of course effects "consumers". Giblin and Doctorow's _Chokepoint Capitalism_ is worth checking out. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/710957/chokepoint-c...

• stubybubs · 2023 年

  ……真正“做到”大多数人眼中的反垄断，这可能意味着要推翻受伯克影响的“仅关注眼前消费者福利”的法律释义。科利·多克托罗在《Chokepoint Capitalism》里对此大谈特谈。那本书主要讲的是它在科技大厂层面的体现，但也解释了像“养鸡化”（chickenization）这种现象，即一家企业的全盘垂直和横向整合，以及它本质上是如何构成寡头垄断的……

  …actually _do_ what most people think of antitrust, which probably means undoing the Bork-influenced "immediate consumer welfare only" interpretation of the law. Cory Doctorow has a lot to say about this in Chokepoint Capitalism. That book mainly talks about the big tech aspect of it, but it explains things like chickenization, which is total vertical and horizontal integration of a business, and how it's basically oligopolies…

• dredmorbius · 2023 年

  科利·多克托罗的《Chokepoint Capitalism》。尤其是讲救济方案的那几章，那些方案不是建立在个人行动上，而是基于社会和监管机制。

  Cory Doctorow, Chokepoint Capitalism. Specifically the remedies chapters, which are not based on personal actions but rather social and regulatory mechanisms.

• dredmorbius · 2023 年

  ……以及出版商，避开媒体垄断的陷阱，无论是在新闻、图书出版、教育还是娱乐领域，这种垄断既伤害受众，也伤害个体创作者。参见科利·多克托罗的《Chokepoint Capitalism》以及许多关于后者危害的博文和演讲。

  …and publishers, avoiding the pitfalls of media monopolies, again whether in news, book publishing, education, or entertainment, which harm both the audience and individual creators. See Cory Doctorow's Chokepoint Capitalism and many blog postings and speeches on the harms of the latter.

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