……（就像它的大多数拥趸一样）。> 我看不出有什么历史或教育背景意识。这真是极具讽刺意味，虽然我不指望你能明白为什么。我建议去读读《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion's Seed）和《对无保留意见的温和介绍》（A Gentle Introduction to Unqualified Reservations）。
…of it (same as most of its adherents). > I don't see awareness of historical or educational context. This is deeply ironic, although I don't expect you to be able to notice why. I suggest reading Albion's Seed and A Gentle Introduction to Unqualified Reservations.
…This doesn't do much the problem of concentration of wealth (warlords as well as capitalists have high wealth concentration), and it creates sociological problems; for details in a familiar context, read Albion's Seed, specifically the section on the Borderers/hillbillies/Scotch-Irish. * State ownership of some productive capital (Britain after WWII) or basically all productive capital (the USSR). This works well…
…and bribery than in Europe. Much more more crime and lawlessness than in Europe. Certainly doesn't seem puritanical to me. If you are seriously interested in the U.S. founding, I'd recommend reading Albion's Seed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion's_Seed Yes, there were puritans in New England. But also tobacco farmers in Virginia, Cavaliers, and Scotch-Irish and border English in the South, and the Spanish…
If you are interested in the role of "honor" in American culture, and up for lengthy academic treatise filled with incredible tidbits of knowledge, David Hackett Fischer's book "Albion's Seed" is delightful. For example, here's an excerpt that stuck with me regarding President Andrew Jackson's approach to marriage: The border custom of bridal abduction was introduced to the American backcountry.…
……《墙》第二部分（The Wall Part 2）[0]，以及英国学校当年有多专制的故事。我猜总有一群人热衷于制定大量规矩并要求大家死守。费雪写过一本很棒的书叫《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion’s Seed）[1]，深入探讨了建立美国的四组英国人群。苏格兰和英格兰北部的“边境”族群非常崇尚无政府主义，他们为了逃避英国统治迁徙到了殖民地。……
…the Wall Part 2 [0] and the story of how authoritarian British schools were. I guess there some sort of contingent for making lots of rules and demanding adherence. There’s a pretty great book called Albion’s Seed [1] by Fischer that goes into the four groups of British people that founded America. The “border” peoples of Scotland/north England were pretty anarchistic and moved to the colonies fleeing British rule.…
想要深入了解这种特定文化表达的历史根源，我强烈推荐读读《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion's Seed）。这种极端管束的文化民俗，其根源一直可以追溯到清教徒育儿习俗中的“打折意志（breaking the will）”。最恶劣的这种家庭并非巧合……
For some deep history on this particular cultural expression, I highly recommend reading Albion's Seed. This cultural folkway of extreme supervision traces its roots all the way back to the Puritans' child-rearing folkway: "breaking the will." It's no coincidence that the most egregious of these family…
……（就像它的大多数拥趸一样）。> 我看不出有什么历史或教育背景意识。这真是极具讽刺意味，虽然我不指望你能明白为什么。我建议去读读《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion's Seed）和《对无保留意见的温和介绍》（A Gentle Introduction to Unqualified Reservations）。
…of it (same as most of its adherents). > I don't see awareness of historical or educational context. This is deeply ironic, although I don't expect you to be able to notice why. I suggest reading Albion's Seed and A Gentle Introduction to Unqualified Reservations.
……这对于财富集中问题起不到多大作用（军阀和资本家一样，财富都高度集中），而且还会引发社会学问题；想在熟悉的背景下了解细节，可以读读《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion's Seed），特别是关于边境人/乡巴佬/苏格兰-爱尔兰裔（Borderers/hillbillies/Scotch-Irish）的那部分。* 部分生产性资本归国家所有（二战后的英国），或者基本上所有生产性资本归国家所有（苏联）。这种机制运作得很好……
…This doesn't do much the problem of concentration of wealth (warlords as well as capitalists have high wealth concentration), and it creates sociological problems; for details in a familiar context, read Albion's Seed, specifically the section on the Borderers/hillbillies/Scotch-Irish. * State ownership of some productive capital (Britain after WWII) or basically all productive capital (the USSR). This works well…
……以及行贿受贿比欧洲严重得多。犯罪和无法无天的现象也远超欧洲。在我看来这绝对算不上清教徒作风。如果你真对美国建国史感兴趣，我推荐读读《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion's Seed）：https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion's_Seed 没错，新英格兰确实有清教徒。但弗吉尼亚还有烟草农场主、骑士党人（Cavaliers），南部有苏格兰-爱尔兰裔以及英格兰边境人，还有西班牙人……
…and bribery than in Europe. Much more more crime and lawlessness than in Europe. Certainly doesn't seem puritanical to me. If you are seriously interested in the U.S. founding, I'd recommend reading Albion's Seed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion's_Seed Yes, there were puritans in New England. But also tobacco farmers in Virginia, Cavaliers, and Scotch-Irish and border English in the South, and the Spanish…
如果你对“荣誉”在美国文化中的角色感兴趣，并且愿意啃一部干货满满、细节极其惊艳的大部头学术专著，大卫·哈克特·费雪的《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion's Seed）读起来会非常过瘾。举个例子，摘录一段关于安德鲁·杰克逊总统婚姻观的文字，让我印象极深：抢新娘这一边境习俗被带到了美国偏远拓荒区。……
If you are interested in the role of "honor" in American culture, and up for lengthy academic treatise filled with incredible tidbits of knowledge, David Hackett Fischer's book "Albion's Seed" is delightful. For example, here's an excerpt that stuck with me regarding President Andrew Jackson's approach to marriage: The border custom of bridal abduction was introduced to the American backcountry.…
……《墙》第二部分（The Wall Part 2）[0]，以及英国学校当年有多专制的故事。我猜总有一群人热衷于制定大量规矩并要求大家死守。费雪写过一本很棒的书叫《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion’s Seed）[1]，深入探讨了建立美国的四组英国人群。苏格兰和英格兰北部的“边境”族群非常崇尚无政府主义，他们为了逃避英国统治迁徙到了殖民地。……
…the Wall Part 2 [0] and the story of how authoritarian British schools were. I guess there some sort of contingent for making lots of rules and demanding adherence. There’s a pretty great book called Albion’s Seed [1] by Fischer that goes into the four groups of British people that founded America. The “border” peoples of Scotland/north England were pretty anarchistic and moved to the colonies fleeing British rule.…
想要深入了解这种特定文化表达的历史根源，我强烈推荐读读《阿尔比恩的种子》（Albion's Seed）。这种极端管束的文化民俗，其根源一直可以追溯到清教徒育儿习俗中的“打折意志（breaking the will）”。最恶劣的这种家庭并非巧合……
For some deep history on this particular cultural expression, I highly recommend reading Albion's Seed. This cultural folkway of extreme supervision traces its roots all the way back to the Puritans' child-rearing folkway: "breaking the will." It's no coincidence that the most egregious of these family…