…was a library book that should never have been taken out of circulation. It discusses an important aspect of software design that gets little love in the mainstream. I also got a copy of Yourdon's "Structured Design," which was originally released just as OOP was getting big. But... it still contains numerous pearls of wisdom suitable for both OOP and Functional programmers.
Fred Brooks 的《人月神话》(Mythical Man Month)非常不错。还有 Don Norman 的《设计心理学》(The Design of Everyday Things,TDoET)。Larry L. Constantine 和 Ed Yourdon 在 1975 年出版的《Structured Design》也是另一本极好的书,我最近正在读。
Mythical Man Month by Fred Brooks is pretty good. There is also the Design of Everyday Things (TDoET) by Don Norman. Structured Design from 1975 by Larry L. Constantine and Ed Yourdon is another excellent book that I am currently reading now.
……各种推荐,我建议 Ed 把它加到他自己的“好书”书单里。他很快回复并表示赞同。虽然我没有通读全书,但我从借来的《Structured Design》里读到的关于耦合(coupling)和内聚(cohesion)的章节,对我产生了极大的影响。
…recommendations, I suggested that Ed add it to his own list of "cool books." He replied promptly and agreed. Although I didn't read it from cover to cover, the chapters I read from a borrowed copy of Structured Design on coupling and cohesion had a big impact on me.
……Cleary),但我特别希望能搞到 Yourdon-Constantine 的这一本,以及它背后的故事。我当年确实在一家 CASE 厂商工作过,那家公司一开始就是做工具,把 Yourdon 等人的“结构化分析(Structured Analysis)”和“结构化设计(Structured Design)”应用在军工、航天和数据通信的关键系统上。(我很幸运在波特兰分部担任这些工具全生命周期演进的年轻吉祥物角色,后来又进了总部的研发团队做下一代……
…Cleary), but would kill for this Yourdon-Constantine one, as well as the story behind it. I actually worked for a CASE vendor that started by building tools to apply Yourdon et al.'s Structured Analysis and Structured Design to important systems, in mil/aerospace/datacom. (I was lucky to be the teen mascot on our full-lifecycle evolution of those tools, in the Portland division, and then on an R&D team at HQ for next-gen…
…OOP still relevant? I haven't read either, personally, though I have Yourdon's book en route. We use the term "structural design" quite a bit, so I'm curious to see Yourdon's take on what they call "structured design". From everything I've read about it, it sounds very similar to a lot of how we think about things as it seems to be the basis for much of the coupling and cohesion thought in our industry. I'd also…
……非常感谢你详尽的回复!是的,关于 AI 的大部分观点我都认同——现在成为一名更偏架构师型的工程师比以往任何时候都重要。我最近在翻一本 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Structured-Design-Fundamentals-Disc... 来给自己的大脑预热这个主题。多谢你给的所有 Web 开发建议和技术推荐。里面有些非常棒的例子我之前完全不知道。关于利基市场……
…generous response! Yeah, I'm agreed on most of the AI stuff - becoming a more architect-shaped engineer is now more important than ever. I've been flicking through a copy of https://www.amazon.co.uk/Structured-Design-Fundamentals-Disc... lately to get my brain into gear on this subject. Thanks for all the web dev advice and tech callouts. Some real neat examples there which I knew nothing about. Regarding niches,…
……曾是一本绝不该从图书馆下架的书。它探讨了软件设计中一个很关键、但在主流领域却极少受到重视的方面。我还搞到了一本 Yourdon 的《Structured Design》,这本书最初是在 OOP 刚火起来的时候出版的。但是……它依然包含大量智慧结晶,对 OOP 和函数式编程人员来说都非常受用。
…was a library book that should never have been taken out of circulation. It discusses an important aspect of software design that gets little love in the mainstream. I also got a copy of Yourdon's "Structured Design," which was originally released just as OOP was getting big. But... it still contains numerous pearls of wisdom suitable for both OOP and Functional programmers.
Fred Brooks 的《人月神话》(Mythical Man Month)非常不错。还有 Don Norman 的《设计心理学》(The Design of Everyday Things,TDoET)。Larry L. Constantine 和 Ed Yourdon 在 1975 年出版的《Structured Design》也是另一本极好的书,我最近正在读。
Mythical Man Month by Fred Brooks is pretty good. There is also the Design of Everyday Things (TDoET) by Don Norman. Structured Design from 1975 by Larry L. Constantine and Ed Yourdon is another excellent book that I am currently reading now.
……各种推荐,我建议 Ed 把它加到他自己的“好书”书单里。他很快回复并表示赞同。虽然我没有通读全书,但我从借来的《Structured Design》里读到的关于耦合(coupling)和内聚(cohesion)的章节,对我产生了极大的影响。
…recommendations, I suggested that Ed add it to his own list of "cool books." He replied promptly and agreed. Although I didn't read it from cover to cover, the chapters I read from a borrowed copy of Structured Design on coupling and cohesion had a big impact on me.
……Cleary),但我特别希望能搞到 Yourdon-Constantine 的这一本,以及它背后的故事。我当年确实在一家 CASE 厂商工作过,那家公司一开始就是做工具,把 Yourdon 等人的“结构化分析(Structured Analysis)”和“结构化设计(Structured Design)”应用在军工、航天和数据通信的关键系统上。(我很幸运在波特兰分部担任这些工具全生命周期演进的年轻吉祥物角色,后来又进了总部的研发团队做下一代……
…Cleary), but would kill for this Yourdon-Constantine one, as well as the story behind it. I actually worked for a CASE vendor that started by building tools to apply Yourdon et al.'s Structured Analysis and Structured Design to important systems, in mil/aerospace/datacom. (I was lucky to be the teen mascot on our full-lifecycle evolution of those tools, in the Portland division, and then on an R&D team at HQ for next-gen…
……OOP 还有现实意义吗?这两本书我自己都没读过,不过买的 Yourdon 那本书已经在路上了。我们平时经常用“structural design”这个词,所以我很好奇 Yourdon 对他们所谓的“structured design”是怎么看的。从我读过的所有相关资料来看,它听起来跟我们当下的很多思考方式非常像,因为它似乎构成了我们行业中大部分关于耦合和内聚思想的基础。我也想……
…OOP still relevant? I haven't read either, personally, though I have Yourdon's book en route. We use the term "structural design" quite a bit, so I'm curious to see Yourdon's take on what they call "structured design". From everything I've read about it, it sounds very similar to a lot of how we think about things as it seems to be the basis for much of the coupling and cohesion thought in our industry. I'd also…
……非常感谢你详尽的回复!是的,关于 AI 的大部分观点我都认同——现在成为一名更偏架构师型的工程师比以往任何时候都重要。我最近在翻一本 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Structured-Design-Fundamentals-Disc... 来给自己的大脑预热这个主题。多谢你给的所有 Web 开发建议和技术推荐。里面有些非常棒的例子我之前完全不知道。关于利基市场……
…generous response! Yeah, I'm agreed on most of the AI stuff - becoming a more architect-shaped engineer is now more important than ever. I've been flicking through a copy of https://www.amazon.co.uk/Structured-Design-Fundamentals-Disc... lately to get my brain into gear on this subject. Thanks for all the web dev advice and tech callouts. Some real neat examples there which I knew nothing about. Regarding niches,…