美国程序员的衰落
Decline and Fall of the American Programmer
Edward Yourdon · 初版 1992 年
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为什么值得读
- 提出用脚投票的职场警醒建议
- 揭示管理层排斥迭代开发的现实
- 呈现离岸外包带来的强烈危机感
与目前市场上那些推崇“银弹”的书相比，这本书带来了一股令人耳目一新的清风。人们往往把软件交付过程问题中某个单一维度的解决方案紧抓不放，吹嘘成提高分析师/程序员生产力的终极答案。我赞同 Ed 的观点，即统一场论目前尚未出现（可能永远也不会出现），但这部著作对问题领域边界的界定，是近年来任何书籍都无法比拟的。”——John Johns，AT & T，佐治亚州。
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…不过，没错，这通常就是靠霸凌手段来强推一笔烂交易。大多数管理层都极其讨厌迭代开发（iterative development），因为它太实在了。我最喜欢的 Ed Yourdon 名言之一是：“用脚投票”（出自《Decline and Fall of the American Programmer》，这本书当年把我吓得够呛，现在看来某些方面确实没吓错——而在有了和离岸外包团队合作的经历后，我更是吓出一身冷汗）
…But, yeah, often it's just bullying to drive a bad bargain. Most management HATES iterative development, because it's too honest. One of my favorite Ed Yourdon quotes: "Vote with your feet" (from "Decline and Fall of the American Programmer, which scared the hell out of me, rightly so in some cases - and after working with off shore development, that scared the hell out of me)
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哇，想想我白花冤枉钱买《Decline and Fall of the American Programmer》居然已经是快 30 年前的事了。可惜这是我读过的第一本 Yourdon 的书，因为读完这本也就成了最后一本。
Wow, to think it's been almost 30 years since I wasted money on Decline and Fall of the American Programmer. Too bad it was the first Yourdon book I'd read, because it was also the last.
鼠标滚轮可太管用了。我一口气滑到了最后那个蠢问题。我们以前听说过《Decline and Fall of the American Programmer》吗？等等，他还写了续集啊。http://www.amazon.com/Decline-American-Programmer-Edward-You... http://www.amazon.com/Resurrection-American-Programmer-Yourd...
The mouse wheel comes in very handy. I made it to the dumb question at the end. We've heard about the "Decline and Fall of the American Programmer" before? Oh wait, he wrote a followup. http://www.amazon.com/Decline-American-Programmer-Edward-You... http://www.amazon.com/Resurrection-American-Programmer-Yourd...
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This saturation of demand for software talent has been predicted for literally decades. In 1992, Ed Yourdon published “Decline and Fall of the American Programmer,” only to reverse himself four years later with the publication of “Rise and Resurrection of the American Programmer.” If anything, the rate at which capable software professionals can create value has…