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两个高贵的亲戚

The Two Noble Kinsmen

John Fletcher、William Shakespeare · 初版 1634 年

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  • 我一直在尝试把《两贵亲》改编成舞台剧,哎,这真不是个好作品。我一直在挑战演遍莎士比亚的所有剧目,但这部没算进去,因为它没被收录在《第一对开本》里。我一直把它当成弗莱彻的……

    I've been working on adapting Two Noble Kinsmen for performance, and boy, it's not a good piece. I haven't been counting it in my quest to perform every Shakespeare play, since it's not included in the First Folio. I've been treating it as a Fletcher…

  • ……毫无疑问的是,那个时期的戏剧往往是多位作者合作的产物。不同的作者可能会添上几句台词或几个场景。两位作者可能会合写一部剧(比如《两贵亲》),或者好几个作者一起给作品“润色润色”。莎士比亚以自己写剧本为主,但其他人绝对在各处插过手,就像他也在其他没挂……的作品里搭过手一样。

    …What is definitely true is that plays during this time period were often collaborations between multiple writers. Different authors might add in lines or scenes. Two authors might co-write a play (The Two Noble Kinsmen) or numerous author might 'punch up' a work. Shakespeare primarily wrote his plays, but other people definitely contributed bits here and there, just like he contributed bits to other plays that don't…

  • > 就像许多选集一样,他们因为作者署名不清而遗漏了《两贵亲》,出于同样的原因,我也把它从我的清单里删除了。> 此外,归于莎士比亚名下的剧目中,大约有 20% 存在某种程度的合作,尽管合作的细节……

    > Like many collections, they omit The Two Noble Kinsmen due to unclear authorship, and for this reason I’m omitting it from my list as well. > Also, around 20% of plays credited to Shakespeare were collaborations of some degree, though the collaboration details…

  • ……我脑海中浮现的第一个反例。你对一个英语专业的学生说“博蒙特”,不管他读没读过他们的戏,都会脱口而出“弗莱彻”。莎士比亚至少合作过一部剧吧。(《两贵亲》?)龚古尔兄弟一直合写小说,直到其中一人身体垮掉去世——链接里的文章提到两人组合更普遍。为什么跟别人合作写作就一定会让人得不到满足呢?

    …the counter-example that comes to mind first. Say "Beaumont" to an English major and he will respond "Fletcher", whether or not he has read their plays. Shakespeare collaborated on at least one play. (Two Noble Kinsmen?) The Goncourt brothers wrote novels together until the one's decline and death--the linked piece mentions duos as more common. Why would writing with someone else necessarily leave the need unsatisfied?

  • ……这包括最著名的像《哈姆雷特》、《罗密欧与朱丽叶》、《奥赛罗》、《李尔王》等等。但还有不少剧本是与其他剧作家合作完成的——例如文中提到的《两贵亲》,就是与约翰·弗莱彻合作创作的。其他合作情况可以参阅 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare%27s_collab...。计量文本分析……

    …this includes the most well known like "Hamlet", "Romeo and Juliet", "Othello", "King Lear" and so on. But a number of plays were written in collaboration with other playwrights - for example the play "Two Noble Kinsmen" mentioned in the article, which was written in collaboration with John Fletcher. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare%27s_collab... for other collaborations. Quantitative textual analysis…

  • ……演出莎士比亚的剧作,我会根据自己的目标进行修改,需要纯文本作为底本。)这个版本很省事,稍微做过校订规范了拼写。当年我搞《两贵亲》的时候,不得不拿直接扫描自原始印刷文本的版本开刀,第一步就得把它弄得能让人看懂。虽然它印着《第一对开本》的扉页,但内容根本不是从那儿来的。……

    …perform Shakespeare plays, which I edit according to my goals, and need a source of plain text to start from.) This edition, conveniently, has been lightly edited to regularize the spelling. When I did Two Noble Kinsmen, I had to start from an edition that was directly from the original printed text, and the first step was to make it legible. Despite bearing the title page of the First Folio, this isn't drawn from there.…

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