
自由的演化
Freedom evolves
Daniel C. Dennett · 初版 2002 年
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为什么值得读
- 重新定义自由意志,使其与现代物理结论相兼容
- 驳斥非决定论是自由前提的观点,立论透彻精妙
- 从演化与唯物角度解构意识难题,带来智力启发
“四十亿年前,我们的星球上没有自由,因为那时还没有生命。自生命起源以来,演化出了哪些种类的自由?在决定论的世界里是否存在自由和自由意志?如果你是自由的,你是因自身而获得自由,还是仅仅因为幸运?”“在《Freedom Evolves》中,《Darwin's Dangerous Idea》和《Consciousness Explained》的作者 Daniel C. Dennett 着手解答这些问题,揭示了我们如何在动物中独树一帜地演化出了赋予我们自由意志与道德的心智。借助演化生物学,他提出了一系列极具创见的论点,
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……非决定论不知怎么的成了我们所谓的“自由意志”中的重要组成部分。我对此觉得讲不太通。如果你也想觉得它讲不通,可以读读丹尼尔·丹尼特(Daniel Dennett)的《自由演化》(Freedom Evolves)。不过读那本书你可能得预留不止两三个小时的时间。
…that nondeterminism is somehow an important ingredient in whatever it is we mean by "free will". This doesn't make much sense to me. If you want it to not make sense to you as well, read Daniel Dennett's Freedom Evolves. You might want to budget more than a couple hours for that book, though.
如果有谁给我推荐 Harris 的书,我就会把 Dennett 对他那本书的书评甩回去:https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13814 另外还有《Elbow Room》,或者更好一些的《Freedom Evolves》。
I recommend Dennett's review of Harris's book to people who recommend it: https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13814 Also Elbow Room, or, better, Freedom Evolves.
……一堆分子的集合,恰好就这么排列着。并不存在什么叫作“桌子”的神奇本质,它就是由物质构成的,而我们相应地体验到了那种物质排列。更清晰的阐释可以参考丹尼特(Dennett,2003)的《自由演化》(Freedom Evolves)。他和文章里讲的一样,但他重新定义了“自由意志”,使其契合这些结论的现实——这是一种在智力上更能让人满足的做法,即便……
…collections of a bunch of molecules, arranged just so. There is no magical essence called "desk", it's made up of stuff, and we experience that arrangement of stuff accordingly. See Dennett, (2003): "Freedom Evolves" for a more lucid account. He says the same as is said in the article, but instead re-defines "free will" to fit the reality of these conclusions - a more intellectually satisfying approach, even though…
每次聊到这个话题我都会这么说,而且这话题好像还挺常出现的,所以抱歉我听起来像个复读机,但大家真的得读读丹·丹尼特(Dan Dennett)的《自由演化》(Freedom Evolves),然后再读他那部更长、更重要的著作《意识的解释》(Consciousness Explained)。你可能不会赞同他的结论,毕竟相当激进,但它回答了原帖的问题……
I say this every time this topic comes up, which seems to be often, so I'm sorry to sound like a broken record, but y'all need to read 'Freedom Evolves' by Dan Dennett, followed up by his longer more important work, 'Consciousness Explained.' You might not agree with his conclusions, as they're fairly radical, but it answers the question of the original…
丹尼尔·丹尼特的《自由演化》(Freedom Evolves)探讨的就是这个。http://www.amazon.com/Freedom-Evolves-Daniel-C-Dennett/dp/01... 我们的未来或许是注定的,但我们的本性不是。我们并没有那种洞悉我们一切的“上帝视角”……
'Freedom evolves' by Daniel Dennett deals with this. http://www.amazon.com/Freedom-Evolves-Daniel-C-Dennett/dp/01... Our future may be fixed, but our nature is not. We don't have a 'God's eye view' that sees all our…
如果你对这些话题感兴趣,我强烈推荐哲学家丹尼尔·丹尼特的两本书:《意识的解释》(Consciousness Explained)和《自由演化》(Freedom Evolves)。他调和决定论与自由意志的思路大致是这样的:假设决定论成立,那我们就生活在无数个可能宇宙的其中之一里。作为有限的智能体,我们拥有……
If you're interested in these topics, I highly recommend a couple of books by philosopher Daniel Dennett: 'Consciousness Explained' and 'Freedom Evolves'. His way of reconciling determinism with free will goes something like this. Assuming determinism, then we are living in one of a huge number of possible universes. As limited intelligences, we have…