Fsck。我之前还真没这么想过。谢谢，角度很棒。这个时代真让我忍不住想重读一遍 Daniel Dennett 的《意向立场》（The Intentional Stance）。https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance 我们已经把通俗心理学（folk psychology）做成了一个用户界面，这确实意味着我们应该继续用通俗心理学来预测行为…
Fsck. I hadn't thought of it that way. Thank you, great point. This era has me hankering to reread Daniel Dennett's _The Intentional Stance_. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance We've developed folk psychology into a user interface and that really does mean that we should continue to use folk psychology to predict the behaviour…
> And I'd say you're just telling yourself a retroactively edited story that there is a singular subjective experience in order to make sense of our own thoughts and behaviours So look, "The Intentional Stance" is for me one of the most important books I've ever read in this general area, and I totally buy all the stuff Dennett and others have built up around the idea that what we are conscious of is an edited,…
你或许可以读读 Daniel Dennett 的《意向立场》（The Intentional Stance），这是一部哲学论著，基本上是探讨我们如何把欲望或意图赋予无生命的物体和现象，作为一种实用的心智模型（比如，说“温控器试图…
You might want to read “The Intentional Stance” by Daniel Dennett, a philosophical treatise basically on how we usefully ascribe desire or intention to inanimate objects and phenomena as a mental model (for example, saying that “The thermostat tries…
…从唯物主义者的视角解释意识体验和语义学，Hofstadter 和 Sander 的《表象与本质》（Surfaces and Essences），以及 Minsky 的《心智社会》（Society of Mind）和《情感机器》（Emotion Machine）都极棒。Dennett 的《意向立场》（Intentional Stance）也切题——讨论了我们如何合情合理地把物质系统看作具有意图。记住，从历史上看，二元论才是更“符合本能的想法”，即使是铁杆唯物主义者…
…explanations of conscious experience and semantics from a materialist's perspective, Hofstadter and Sander's 'Surfaces and Essences' and Minsky's 'Society of Mind' and 'Emotion Machine' are great. Dennett's 'Intentional Stance' is also relevant - discussing how we can sensibly talk about material systems as having intention. Bear in mind that dualism is the more 'natural thought' in historical terms, and even hardcore materialists…
…Douglas Hofstadter 编的文集。你是想说 Douglas Hofstadter 和 Daniel Dennett 合编的吧 ;-) Daniel Dennett 关于意识/AI 和宗教的哲学著作也非常平易近人。在我看来，他的《意向立场》（Intentional Stance）堪称经典。他后期的作品我没全读过——但《意识的解释》（Consciousness Explained）也写得极好。（他把生命的定义归纳为 4 个 F 总是让我笑喷——fight 战斗、flee 逃跑、feed 进食，还有……mating 交配……），
…anthology edited by Douglas Hofstadter Edited by Douglas Hofstadter & Daniel Dennett you mean ;-) Daniel Dennett's philosophical writings on consciousness/AI and religion are also very approachable. His "Intentional Stance" is a classic IMHO. I've not read all of his later stuff - but Consciousness Explained is also very good. (His four Fs definition of life always cracks me up - fight, flee, feed, and... mating...),
关于你提到的第 3 类问题的讨论，你可能会喜欢 Dennett 那本影响力很大的书《意向立场》（The Intentional Stance），书中讨论了人们是如何通过像“温控器试图把温度维持在 X 到 Y 之间”这样的模型来进行推理的）。https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance
For the discussion of your category 3 you might enjoy Dennett’s influential book, The Intentional Stance, which discusses how people reason from models like “the thermostat tries to keep the temperature between X and Y”). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance
Fsck。我之前还真没这么想过。谢谢，角度很棒。这个时代真让我忍不住想重读一遍 Daniel Dennett 的《意向立场》（The Intentional Stance）。https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance 我们已经把通俗心理学（folk psychology）做成了一个用户界面，这确实意味着我们应该继续用通俗心理学来预测行为…
Fsck. I hadn't thought of it that way. Thank you, great point. This era has me hankering to reread Daniel Dennett's _The Intentional Stance_. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance We've developed folk psychology into a user interface and that really does mean that we should continue to use folk psychology to predict the behaviour…
> 而且要我说，你不过是在事后给自己编造了一个关于存在单一主观体验的故事，好合理化我们自己的想法和行为罢了。所以听着，《意向立场》（The Intentional Stance）对我来说是这个领域里读过最重要的书之一，而且我完全认同 Dennett 等人围绕“我们所意识到的东西其实是被剪辑过的”这一观点所构建的一切理论，…
> And I'd say you're just telling yourself a retroactively edited story that there is a singular subjective experience in order to make sense of our own thoughts and behaviours So look, "The Intentional Stance" is for me one of the most important books I've ever read in this general area, and I totally buy all the stuff Dennett and others have built up around the idea that what we are conscious of is an edited,…
你或许可以读读 Daniel Dennett 的《意向立场》（The Intentional Stance），这是一部哲学论著，基本上是探讨我们如何把欲望或意图赋予无生命的物体和现象，作为一种实用的心智模型（比如，说“温控器试图…
You might want to read “The Intentional Stance” by Daniel Dennett, a philosophical treatise basically on how we usefully ascribe desire or intention to inanimate objects and phenomena as a mental model (for example, saying that “The thermostat tries…
…从唯物主义者的视角解释意识体验和语义学，Hofstadter 和 Sander 的《表象与本质》（Surfaces and Essences），以及 Minsky 的《心智社会》（Society of Mind）和《情感机器》（Emotion Machine）都极棒。Dennett 的《意向立场》（Intentional Stance）也切题——讨论了我们如何合情合理地把物质系统看作具有意图。记住，从历史上看，二元论才是更“符合本能的想法”，即使是铁杆唯物主义者…
…explanations of conscious experience and semantics from a materialist's perspective, Hofstadter and Sander's 'Surfaces and Essences' and Minsky's 'Society of Mind' and 'Emotion Machine' are great. Dennett's 'Intentional Stance' is also relevant - discussing how we can sensibly talk about material systems as having intention. Bear in mind that dualism is the more 'natural thought' in historical terms, and even hardcore materialists…
…Douglas Hofstadter 编的文集。你是想说 Douglas Hofstadter 和 Daniel Dennett 合编的吧 ;-) Daniel Dennett 关于意识/AI 和宗教的哲学著作也非常平易近人。在我看来，他的《意向立场》（Intentional Stance）堪称经典。他后期的作品我没全读过——但《意识的解释》（Consciousness Explained）也写得极好。（他把生命的定义归纳为 4 个 F 总是让我笑喷——fight 战斗、flee 逃跑、feed 进食，还有……mating 交配……），
…anthology edited by Douglas Hofstadter Edited by Douglas Hofstadter & Daniel Dennett you mean ;-) Daniel Dennett's philosophical writings on consciousness/AI and religion are also very approachable. His "Intentional Stance" is a classic IMHO. I've not read all of his later stuff - but Consciousness Explained is also very good. (His four Fs definition of life always cracks me up - fight, flee, feed, and... mating...),
关于你提到的第 3 类问题的讨论，你可能会喜欢 Dennett 那本影响力很大的书《意向立场》（The Intentional Stance），书中讨论了人们是如何通过像“温控器试图把温度维持在 X 到 Y 之间”这样的模型来进行推理的）。https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance
For the discussion of your category 3 you might enjoy Dennett’s influential book, The Intentional Stance, which discusses how people reason from models like “the thermostat tries to keep the temperature between X and Y”). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance