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我们可以造出你

We can build you

Philip K. Dick、Dan John Miller · 初版 1972 年

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  • 这天已经到了。今天有个帖子说,有人用自己大学时期的聊天记录训练了一个LLM,成功重构出了当年的那种对话风格。这让我想起了菲利普·K·迪克的《我们可以造你》(We Can Build You),或者波尔的《希奇传奇》(Hechee Saga)系列小说里早期的“Here After”。有人克隆你的声音去诈骗你的家人、朋友和生意伙伴,已经是一个迫在眉睫且现实存在的……

    It is here. There was a post today about someone who trained an LLM on chat logs from his college days and was able to reconstruct that kind of conversation. I think of We can build you by Phillip K. Dick or the early version of “Here After” from the Hechee Saga books by Pohl. People cloning your voice and scamming your family, friends and business associates is a clear and present…

  • 上面列出的大部分都是他原本的书名。其中一些在以单行本出版之前是以连载形式发表的(比如《火星时间滑移》和《我们可以造你》),当时用了不同的标题。信件、手稿和出版备忘录有助于理清这些情况;例如《蒂莫西·阿彻的迁徙》当年就经常被称作“阿彻小说”……

    Most of the above are his titles. Some which were published in serialized form before being published in a single volume (Martian Time-Slip and We Can Build You) had different titles. Letters, manuscripts, and publication notes are helpful to shed some light on this matter; e.g. The Transmigration of Timothy Archer was regularly referred to as the "Archer novel"…

  • 你指的是《仿像》(The Simulacra)里那个老是出故障的总统鲁迪·卡尔布弗莱施仿生人,还是《我们可以造你》(We Can Build You)里那个不想被卖掉的亚伯拉罕·林肯总统仿生人?或者你的意思是,这世界已经彻底变成了《我们父亲的信仰》(Faith of our Fathers)里那样——政府在自来水里下致幻剂,就为了不让我们发现关于我们光荣……的真相?

    Do you mean the President Rudy Kalbfleisch simulacrum who keeps breaking down in "The Simulacra", or the President Abraham Lincoln simulacrum who doesn't want to be sold in "We Can Build You"? Or do you mean the world has gone full blown "Faith of our Fathers" where the government is putting hallucinogenic drugs in the water supply to keep us from discovering the truth about our glorious…

  • ……技术,还有一种则是心理上被扭曲变形的现实(比如《VALIS》、《帕尔莫·艾德里奇的三重印记》、《火星时间滑移》等等)。在我看来,中间夹着一大堆相当无聊的书,比如《我们可以造你》、《太空裂隙》和《等待去年》。但我觉得最迷人的,是看着他一步步走向(坠入)越来越黑暗的作品风格。读了这么多,也是一种很奇妙的体验……

    …technology, and then there is reality that is just bent and distorted psychologically (VALIS, Palmer Eldritch, Martian Time Slip, ...). There's a big blob of boring books in the middle, in my opinion, like "We Can Build You", "The Crack in Space", and "Now Wait for Last Year". But what I've found most fascinating is watching his progression (descent) into darker and darker work. It was also a weird experience reading so…

  • ……高堡奇人、火星时间滑移、帕尔莫·艾德里奇的三重印记、阿尔法星卫星上的氏族、仿像、等待去年、仿生人会梦见电子羊吗?(1968)/ 银翼杀手(1982)、尤比克、我们可以造你、流吧!我的眼泪,警察说、盲区行者、蒂莫西·阿彻的迁徙、自由阿尔贝穆斯电台

    …Castle Martian Time-Slip The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch Clans of the Alphane Moon The Simulacra Now Wait for Last Year Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (1968)/Blade Runner (1982) Ubik We Can Build You Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said A Scanner Darkly The Transmigration of Timothy Archer Radio Free Albemuth

  • ……蒂莫西·阿彻:《蒂莫西·阿彻主教》;* 尤比克:《一个反监视者的死亡》;* 火星时间滑移:《火星上的好议员阿尼·科特》(在定下现名之前还曾以《我们所有火星人》连载过);* 我们可以造你:《你家里的第一人》;* 死亡迷宫:《TENCH的时刻》;* 逆行世界:《死者变年轻》。我这里的主要参考资料是劳伦斯·苏廷那本极棒的《菲利普·K·迪克传:神圣入侵》……

    …Timothy Archer: "Bishop Timothy Archer * Ubik: "Death of an Anti-Watcher" * Martian Time-Slip: "Goodmember Arnie Kott of Mars" (also serialized as "All We Marsmen" before getting its current title) * We Can Build You: "The First in Your Family" * A Maze of Death: "The Hour of the TENCH" * Counterclock World: "The Dead Grow Young" My main source here is Lawrence Sutin's excellent "Divine Invasions: A Life of Philip…

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